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    Quote Originally Posted by cruffin View Post
    You have still left 1 loop hole that is currently being used by a lot of managers.
    Managers are fielding weaker teams in champs, cup & league games. This will bring their average skill quality down, then once draw is made buying additional players and fielding their other strong players.
    I have seen association quality go from 60% to above 150% in the space of a few hours. Once association is finished they then sell the new players they have brought. This is all because of the much better prizes in the association than the other tornaments.
    In Associations you should have to name your squad prior to the draw and your skill level should be based on your best 11 players.
    Tankers didn't tank during cup and cl/sl matches so that % will now count, this fix aim the Assos that buy players after the draws to get easy oppos

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    Quote Originally Posted by IImaestroII View Post
    Tankers didn't tank during cup and cl/sl matches so that % will now count, this fix aim the Assos that buy players after the draws to get easy oppos
    Many FA group as the 1 st in the top100 tank during cup and sl/cl
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    My opinion is that nordeus must stop playing "Police and Thieves" with the asso tricksters.
    Why ?
    Because thieves are smarter than policemen. They just cannot escape/hide for a long time

    And why the tricksters are smarter than the devs ?
    Because they are hardcore players of the game.
    Like Lewis Hamilton - he knows better the abilities, the behavior, the potential of a race car than the mechanics and engineers who built it.

    A classic trick some of the top100/platinum groups are doing , is to add in the group 1-2 very low q teams so to drop the avg.
    Then they buy 5* players for the asso games and sell them afterwards.
    Here an example
    [Announcement] Upcoming Changes to FA Matchmaking-selling-1-star-team.jpg

    With this adjustment the game might reads the q of the weak team during the weekend but the group can use another fake 1* team for the next weekend.
    Doing something like rotation.
    So finally the mechanics can "read" a higher quality of this member, only for 2 of the14 days.

    I have read some suggestions, saying to stop the auctions or negotiations during the weekend.
    But this is silly, regular players (the 99,99%) loosing features of the game because of the 0,1%.
    Some suggestions might help, for example the asso group should stay the same for whole the season (like in the asso contest we had).
    But I believe that the only solution is to remove the top100 list
    platinum and Gold 1 to be one, with max 50 tokens prize
    and to give some tokens as prize for 1-3 places of the League.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    platinum and Gold 1 to be one, with max 50 tokens prize
    and to give some tokens as prize for 1-3 places of the League.
    I have proposed this many times, but Nordeus do not want stop manipulators (or tankers), they like to make some updates which do not change anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post

    I have read some suggestions, saying to stop the auctions or negotiations during the weekend.
    But this is silly, regular players (the 99,99%) loosing features of the game because of the 0,1%.
    I haven't seen this suggestion, but I have suggested in the past that any players purchased after the Association draw has been made are not eligible for participation in Association matches for that weekend. This will stop at a stroke any manipulation of teams for lower quality draws and boosting thereafter.
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    If this can be done to affect the association draws - why not league, cup and champions too?
    Who said that they want us to play in fair competitions .
    Then we wouldn't play vs +1 LV teams - for obvious reasons

    btw, the new system is also failing like the old one

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    also the pairs are not equal.
    Again it depends of the first 11 squad you had just before the draw.
    Before the TE 2108 version, in asso draw we had equal pairs.
    I remember that even if I had my best players in the bench (because of a permanent tanking of my reserves), my opponents had a similar quality with me.
    Or if I saw a weak team, I new that he had his strong players in the bench.
    The game was reading the best 11 or 14 players no matter their positions.
    Now I don't know what is reading anymore.
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    * How did we win 12-3 the first round ?
    That's another chapter - lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    also the pairs are not equal.
    Again it depends of the first 11 squad you had just before the draw.
    Before the TE 2108 version, in asso draw we had equal pairs.
    I remember that even if I had my best players in the bench (because of a permanent tanking of my reserves), my opponents had a similar quality with me.
    Or if I saw a weak team, I new that he had his strong players in the bench.
    The game was reading the best 11 or 14 players no matter their positions.
    Now I don't know what is reading anymore.
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    * How did we win 12-3 the first round ?
    That's another chapter - lol
    exact, the last year the draw system suddenly changed, and started counting the avq of the team set at the exact hour of the draws... counting the main 11.. in the place of the best 14 when the assos where launched...*

    I suggested count the 4 last weekend matches avq and checking out the best 11...

    still I mentioned that theres space for some kind of trick by assigning different qualities in 2 of the 4 teams, if the 6 individual AvQs are counted in a "total" to obtain a number of avq for the whole asso to find a similar avq oppo'....

    and well, in resume... Im gonna defend my last point... the system should take into account only the own FA matches, so check out the last 4 weekend matches, and always doing a X avq number for the whole association based in the best 4 teams.

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    So, can we say that this update is bullsh*t like many others before it?

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    This is another group (sorry but cannot reveal the name).
    The 6 teams are the same as the quality for the last two months.
    Nothing have changed.
    I had the favor but cannot understand why

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