I usually play the same formation against all opponents as I do not have enough to buy or train a team of good players. I did recently check for this formation as it is very popular. It was 5-3N-2.Originally Posted by FmFm
How to counter this formation? I was thinking of playing 4-5-1 flat or V style. Do you have any suggestions?
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You can beat this with a lot of formations as long as it covers the basics to defend and to attack versus this formation. Orders play significant role these days. The game has changed. Way back I used to use defensive 3-5-2 with defensive wingers (3-2W-3MC-2) and attacking 4-3-3, but last season I used 3-2W-2MC-2W-1 (wing attacks). 451 Flat has also beaten this formation way back (Nik's 451V was beaten), and 3W-2DMC-2-2W-1 also beaten this. One key in beating this in the past was evident - it is 3MCs with cover in the other areas as appropriate according to the approach used for defence and attack. If the approach was attack middle, then needed 3 attackers in front (AMC, ST or 3ST) but if the approach was defensive and counter-attacking, wingbacks and 2ST (still with the 3MC) was needed. Other possible formations are 4-3N-2W-1 and 3-6-1 wide diamond.
Last edited by Tactician; 11-07-2019 at 01:55 PM.
I definitely need to read up more on all this. Very technical to me. Lol but good to see my formation in that mix. Good stuff, fmfm has a lot of options
Even 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamond has beaten this (I seen it live at least twice many years ago). But, the key in there can be seen again, it is still like 3 in the middle and 3 attackers just in front. But those were old days. Right now, I do not know what the game engine will significantly prefer to be used, but one thing for sure is that orders matter a lot. On paper, all those formations I listed above look good, but wrong orders can be costly.
Last edited by Tactician; 11-07-2019 at 02:09 PM.
Does 3-6-1 do well? I have never seen it been played, does it win stuff.
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3-6-1 Wide Diamond (3W-1DMC-2MC-3WAM-1) not 3-6-1 plain. I personally do not use this, but on paper it is a hard formation to defend against but also to break down. 3-6-1 Narrow Diamond is another hard one (currently used by some top teams in top associations, and also most of the members in my current association used this and some still using it).
The narrow one (atleast) might be overpowered (and misleading to the opponent) just like how certain narrow formations were overpowered way back in this game, and some users could be winning so much just because they using this formation rather than due to their management and tactical skills
Last edited by Tactician; 11-07-2019 at 02:17 PM.
CL Finals day tomorrow, will you guys watch the game or not watch, I think I might not,
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I am definitely watching. It’s my first CL final after all and so far I haven’t done badly when I watched and all my draws and losses were in auto mode. Against the kind of ratings my opponents had, the draws were unacceptable. The loss I can stomach as opposing manager was present and he keeps his main team on the bench. Effin good strategy if you ask me
There are basic rules that we older users got used to. An example is the minimum in any formation is to have 3 defenders, 1 MC in the middle, 1 player on each side and 1 ST. Way back if you went against this rule, you would have suffered significant penalties by the game engine. Nowadays, it seems that the penalties have been 'relaxed'.
Last edited by Tactician; 11-07-2019 at 01:59 PM.
My next opponent for associations matches, 149.2% versus 124.2%.
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