Stop the bets

[Max]

I agree with Miloren, we didn't come here to bet. Its tempting for some, for others like me its irritating... I consider betting a bad habit. Bad Nordeus! Stop it.

PS: The scout list is betting enough

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Yes, it could be good intentions I doubt it though but anyway, as I said in another thread, I spent 40 of my hard earned tokens last season on a 104% DMC with a playmaker Special ability, he has been trash, I actually replaced him with a younger, higher quality payer and he is doing better, that playmaker special ability player scored no goals and made 1 assist in 63 f**king appearances, I accept my responsibility for that, but I would only use he scout market to buy young AML’s and AMR’s.

I will never use that scout market again, I am annoyed just writing that.


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[Max]

[QUOTE=Tactician;644607]I already said it in another thread (https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...tml#post644312) ; this is just another scam from Nordeus. Why it is a scam? Read the following.


(2) The user loses the bet if the match is a draw.


Why should someone even be tempted to make such a bet if he cannot make any gain in terms value for the betting price? It is a loss no matter what. Anyone with decent mathematical knowledge can see this.

I only quoted this part of your post because I only want to address these 2 things.

First of all, if the game is a draw and you lose the bet that is not fair at all, I think both sides of the bet should get maximum tokens.

Secondly, I think they would be tempted by the bet because at a first glance it looks like a good offer (not to me but some people could think it is a good offer, that is just my opinion.

Finally

Hope do you know you lose the bet if you draw? Did you ever try it yourself? Or did another user Inform you?

I agree, if they are making these bets there should be gain for the winners if they win not make a loss as that is not fair.



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[Tactician]

Secondly, I think they would be tempted by the bet because at a first glance it looks like a good offer (not to me but some people could think it is a good offer, that is just my opinion.

This is another thing that makes many of those recent offers more of a scam. They seem make the user think he is getting a good deal (sales-like), but if the value for money is compared to the normal (usual) prices, the user will be getting less for the same price. They are neither sales nor offers, and the recent ones are not even bets for making gains, but tricks to fool users into thinking they are sales, offers and so on and that they will be making gains or saving money if they choose those options but instead they will be spending more for getting less in return. It is called dirty business.

After all this, the intentions of Nordeus should be quit clear to users. This should be alarming to users who are regular buyers in this game. Given what can already be seen openly, just think what worst could be there in this game to 'scam' those users but that are not visible or that evident. They cannot be trusted. Their scam ways are among the main reasons why I have stopped buying in this game. The game is still fun but it is against my principles to support a company behind such bad acts. It is unlikely a problem of marketing nor it is a problem of communication between users and devs; what they been doing wrong be it in events or in doing those so-called sales and so on are clearly intentional but some of those are unacceptable and some are like insults, especially for those users who been paying (buying) to play the game.

The recent changes (shop) only show more into what (bad) direction the company is going. Instead of concentrating on improving the so many already reported bad and undesirable things in this game, they seem to be focusing more on how to milk more money from certain 'vunerable' users upto the point of using scam tricks and bets to try fool them. I did my 'job' here by informing about those tricks in some of my posts. It is upto the users to make the rights decisions.

[Tactician]

This game is also adviced for people older than 3 years old, but this recently introduced betting feature in this game is similar to sports betting. This how low this company stooped. I might sound like I am bashing them, but they deserve it.

[NUNO FC]

You have a point there Tactitian i negleted that fact that this game is played by kids in my previous opinion.

Also support the opinion you manifested several times the spetial offers are many times a scam and are uninteresting, they are only good before you make the first purchase, which is my case never bought tokens so the offer was much better than the one showed, i would get for about 2,50€ 10 tokes, 15 packs each and 20 if borussia won and 35 if inter won!

[Tactician]

You have a point there Tactitian i negleted that fact that this game is played by kids in my previous opinion.

Also support the opinion you manifested several times the spetial offers are many times a scam and are uninteresting, they are only good before you make the first purchase, which is my case never bought tokens so the offer was much better than the one showed, i would get for about 2,50€ 10 tokes, 15 packs each and 20 if borussia won and 35 if inter won!

The lower priced offer might look better, but still the user is losing even he wins the bet. For about double that price (about 4-5 Euros), see what you can get in terms of tokens (which of course you can efficiently change to whatever type of packs as required), and tell me yourself which is the better value (price per token)? What are they upto? For me, that is dirty business. It is dirty when some company repetively (not once, not twice) target vunerable people or people that have a lack of knowledge or awareness about something (including its normal, usual market price) to make extra profits. This is just wrong.

[khris]

Maybe it could be not linked to a real football score but to the game effort.... like achieve +60 points in league

[Tactician]

Maybe it could be not linked to a real football score but to the game effort.... like achieve +60 points in league

Hahahaha, but then they will add new things to the game engine so that it trolls many users who choose such an option so that it is fully biased towards the 'house' (worst than legal casino rates). But, why would someone even chose such an option if he would not make any gain over what he can buy for the same price from the shop directly even if he win the bets? They simply cannot be trusted anymore after all we have seen. Really, Khris, the direction this company has gone and is still going is alarming. Way back, Moi (if you still remember him, he was an admin here) said that unlike what many might think, they are not money greed people.... that they are a team working hard with dedication every day for something they like... something like this, but from what I have been seeing in those past months, it is clear that is no longer the case; it is more like the reverse unless those people working there like to scam others for the company to make money.

[Max]

Maybe it could be not linked to a real football score but to the game effort.... like achieve +60 points in league

Maybe 70, 60 points is easy to obtain, I know I am power level, but when I played on level 13 on my old account. I played against 8 stronger teams in the league and got 4th place with 57 points.

I got 55 points in the league without attending or training my players.

I have proven myself at that level before


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[NUNO FC]

The lower priced offer might look better, but still the user is losing even he wins the bet. For about double that price (about 4-5 Euros), see what you can get in terms of tokens (which of course you can efficiently change to whatever type of packs as required), and tell me yourself which is the better value (price per token)? What are they upto? For me, that is dirty business. It is dirty when some company repetively (not once, not twice) target vunerable people or people that have a lack of knowledge or awareness about something (including its normal, usual market price) to make extra profits. This is just wrong.

For 4,99 you get 37 tokens, 2,49 you get 10 to +15/15/15, you are right given the morale and injury packs are worth 0 its really worse!