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minvis80 What is wrong 05-02-2021, 08:07 PM
Der_Ryan_M Yeah last few days the bad... 05-03-2021, 05:53 AM
khris Any latest new signing?... 05-03-2021, 05:59 AM
Der_Ryan_M Latest signing was on sunday,... 05-03-2021, 06:11 AM
RaiKo Just wondering your young... 05-03-2021, 09:16 AM
Der_Ryan_M Sure, I only keep FT except... 05-03-2021, 09:34 AM
khris The thing is, that each new... 05-03-2021, 10:00 AM
Der_Ryan_M Yeah I know your take on all... 05-03-2021, 10:30 AM
khris The displaced center Ryan,... 05-03-2021, 11:28 AM
Kergelen Very interesting khris. Do... 05-03-2021, 11:35 AM
khris By playing a friendly vs a 1*... 05-03-2021, 01:42 PM
InvincibleGinger FC How do you "spot" those... 05-10-2021, 06:34 PM
khris It is more simple than what... 05-11-2021, 08:02 AM
khris The thing is, that each new... 05-03-2021, 10:00 AM
petrstary Could someone who understands... 05-04-2021, 12:39 PM
khris I wrote this in 2 mins. and... 05-04-2021, 01:11 PM
InvincibleGinger FC Seems legit, but what is the... 05-04-2021, 01:17 PM
Vuslanott Testing and Khris definitely... 05-04-2021, 01:23 PM
khris 8 years here playing and... 05-04-2021, 01:28 PM
petrstary Problem is that I'm lost... 05-06-2021, 08:56 AM
Abbas In essence, the game still... 05-06-2021, 09:04 AM
khris You can test players by... 05-06-2021, 09:59 AM
iSusel This is interesting... In my... 05-06-2021, 05:45 PM
Ristiina FC I'm exactly in the same... 05-06-2021, 08:12 PM
khris Remember that by liberating a... 05-07-2021, 04:24 AM
InvincibleGinger FC Do roles get reassigned at... 05-07-2021, 11:51 AM
RaiKo Yes,it's. Because youth... 05-07-2021, 12:16 PM
InvincibleGinger FC So that means if I identify... 05-07-2021, 12:19 PM
khris No. You can see perfectly,... 05-07-2021, 12:57 PM
khris Isnt the role exactly, is the... 05-07-2021, 01:14 PM
InvincibleGinger FC Thanks a lot for all your... 05-07-2021, 01:51 PM
RaiKo Hi Khris, 2 tough questions... 05-07-2021, 12:09 PM
khris If you do that you'll face... 05-07-2021, 01:10 PM
InvincibleGinger FC I appreciate all the tips and... 05-05-2021, 11:27 AM
khris Later I try to reply. Btw... 05-05-2021, 01:14 PM
RaiKo Wow everytime i learn... 05-04-2021, 03:37 AM
Vuslanott Most of the youths below 60... 05-04-2021, 08:58 AM
InvincibleGinger FC Review your midfield... 05-03-2021, 10:54 AM
Ristiina FC Is there a special topic... 05-03-2021, 03:18 PM
InvincibleGinger FC Never that I have found 05-03-2021, 05:02 PM
Der_Ryan_M What do you mean? My bonus is... 05-03-2021, 04:48 PM
InvincibleGinger FC Well trained on skills... 05-03-2021, 05:04 PM
Der_Ryan_M Nope I don't remember. I... 05-03-2021, 05:58 PM
davewootton1964 Can I ask what drills you are... 05-03-2021, 05:46 PM
InvincibleGinger FC It depends on your team and... 05-03-2021, 06:57 PM
minvis80 This season especially after... 05-03-2021, 01:12 PM
minvis80 You are right,something... 05-03-2021, 09:37 PM
Vuslanott Guys, you all should get used... 05-03-2021, 10:02 PM
Vuslanott Midfielders and the... 05-05-2021, 01:05 AM
maurizio2208 About strategy 05-05-2021, 07:30 AM
InvincibleGinger FC I had a opponent like that in... 05-05-2021, 11:04 AM
Ristiina FC Like many managers says here,... 05-05-2021, 12:03 PM
Vuslanott This one works better ... 05-05-2021, 02:02 PM
HeavensAAA Just a suggestion for... 05-06-2021, 10:07 PM
Vuslanott Why I have got 24 green... 05-07-2021, 12:48 PM
khris 1. I know you mentioned... 05-07-2021, 03:12 PM
khris and btw... my sensation... 05-07-2021, 03:24 PM
RaiKo I cherry-picked what i just... 05-08-2021, 04:57 PM
khris "On the other hand, Selling a... 05-08-2021, 05:25 PM
Samson1865 I used to have a player... 05-08-2021, 09:01 PM
RaiKo But, it shouldn't change... 05-09-2021, 08:38 AM
Vuslanott Why I have got my 25th video... 05-07-2021, 04:11 PM
Der_Ryan_M You have 40 daily videos in... 05-08-2021, 08:26 AM
Vuslanott We have only 25, mate.... 05-08-2021, 03:54 PM
khris No, you can add 15+ by adding... 05-08-2021, 04:41 PM
Vuslanott Only 8 maximum for me. I only... 05-08-2021, 04:48 PM
khris Releasing a player from the... 05-09-2021, 09:21 AM
InvincibleGinger FC What are the best ways to... 05-10-2021, 01:55 PM
Hejst Very interesting things in... 05-18-2021, 07:27 AM
InvincibleGinger FC That is how I understand it... 05-18-2021, 12:07 PM
Hejst Thanks for your answer,... 05-18-2021, 03:29 PM
khris I recommend you, to sell... 05-18-2021, 01:15 PM
InvincibleGinger FC In my experience, counter... 05-18-2021, 01:59 PM
khris Lists are filled, depending... 05-18-2021, 02:19 PM
RaiKo Okay. I'm gonna test it for... 05-19-2021, 08:17 PM
khris Npw what yopu do is a... 05-20-2021, 02:17 PM
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khris Internal programming, and... 05-20-2021, 03:07 PM
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InvincibleGinger FC It is a called "overloading"... 05-20-2021, 03:26 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by iSusel View Post
    This is interesting... In my 1st season I had a not high rated (~80-85%) 26 y.o. AML that scored ridiculously many goals and stole the Top Scorer from my own main 20 y.o. attacker AMC/ST. Then he got +30% Finishing and continued doing this on the 2nd season, so inspite being quite sentimental about that, I had to replace him. Now he's sitting on the bench but might keep his attacking role with him, so it seem I'll have either to sell or to use him.
    Update: Tried putting all attackers (AML AMC AMC AMR ST) in one friendly game against 3* team, the AML had 10 rating with 2 goals and 1 assist after the 1st half already... :-\
    Remember that by liberating a role, it will not just "jump" to another player your have. It will be an available role for a new signing, as internal roles are fixed, once these are assigned.
    So, with 26-27 y.o. will be quite difficult to train him to reach a proper form... I really would check out the team, and think about which players, -that have to be 3-4 mainly- have to be trained more than the rest. The GK is one for sure. Then if that younger 20 aged one plays quite well you can keep him, but if you really want a new amr (as example) with chances to have a good role assigned, you'll need to sell the aml. Still, its posible that if you just have 1 or 2 top performers, there can be space for 1 more, but right now this depend on the other players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khris View Post
    Remember that by liberating a role, it will not just "jump" to another player your have. It will be an available role for a new signing, as internal roles are fixed, once these are assigned.
    So, with 26-27 y.o. will be quite difficult to train him to reach a proper form... I really would check out the team, and think about which players, -that have to be 3-4 mainly- have to be trained more than the rest. The GK is one for sure. Then if that younger 20 aged one plays quite well you can keep him, but if you really want a new amr (as example) with chances to have a good role assigned, you'll need to sell the aml. Still, its posible that if you just have 1 or 2 top performers, there can be space for 1 more, but right now this depend on the other players.
    Do roles get reassigned at the start of each season? It seems to they are since players act different at the start of a new season even though there are no changes to the squad except for the addition of a few academy players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InvincibleGinger FC View Post
    Do roles get reassigned at the start of each season? It seems to they are since players act different at the start of a new season even though there are no changes to the squad except for the addition of a few academy players.
    Yes,it's. Because youth players are counted as new sign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaiKo View Post
    Yes,it's. Because youth players are counted as new sign.
    So that means if I identify the roles of each player at the beginning of the season and do not buy or sell any players, then the roles of each player stays the same throughout the entire season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by InvincibleGinger FC View Post
    Do roles get reassigned at the start of each season? It seems to they are since players act different at the start of a new season even though there are no changes to the squad except for the addition of a few academy players.
    No. You can see perfectly, for example, how by playing a 4-3-3-with 3sts, there are scorers and STs providing assists.. contributing better, or worst, but this is fixed and you can realize about this after some seasons playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InvincibleGinger FC View Post
    Do roles get reassigned at the start of each season? It seems to they are since players act different at the start of a new season even though there are no changes to the squad except for the addition of a few academy players.
    Isnt the role exactly, is the Power which changes when a new player joins your squad, the Dominance power in this case, which means that a old good performer can be eclipsed by a new signing, if this have more Dominance power assigned, meaning that he'll take more animation slots than other players, that may have, better effectivity ratio % (so, contributive power, what is effectivity in the chances) so a player can be vanished and eclipsed due this.

    The game works per lists, it fills spaces basically, so the more dominance power, the better place in the list/tab.

    Then, once a match starts the process is, that the game do the 2 lists, to assign the Attack and Defensive animations to some players, the game never simulates defensive style playing, as the settings exist to give the attack chances to 1 team, so, basically, if a player have a lot of dominance power and you control the match, your attack can feel so stuck and you barely will score 1-2 goals.

    Its about recognize the roles, and balance the lines and powers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by khris View Post
    Isnt the role exactly, is the Power which changes when a new player joins your squad, the Dominance power in this case, which means that a old good performer can be eclipsed by a new signing, if this have more Dominance power assigned, meaning that he'll take more animation slots than other players, that may have, better effectivity ratio % (so, contributive power, what is effectivity in the chances) so a player can be vanished and eclipsed due this.

    The game works per lists, it fills spaces basically, so the more dominance power, the better place in the list/tab.

    Then, once a match starts the process is, that the game do the 2 lists, to assign the Attack and Defensive animations to some players, the game never simulates defensive style playing, as the settings exist to give the attack chances to 1 team, so, basically, if a player have a lot of dominance power and you control the match, your attack can feel so stuck and you barely will score 1-2 goals.

    Its about recognize the roles, and balance the lines and powers...
    Thanks a lot for all your tips. I have a few more questions before I start mapping my team.

    1. I know you mentioned scorers, assists, and aggression, are there any other roles than these I need to look for?
    2. If a player is a assister and a scorer, does that count as 2 of the 7 assigned roles?
    3. Is there a way to "assign" unclaimed roles?
    4. What happens if none of the players on the field have one of the 7 roles assigned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by khris View Post
    Remember that by liberating a role, it will not just "jump" to another player your have. It will be an available role for a new signing, as internal roles are fixed, once these are assigned.
    So, with 26-27 y.o. will be quite difficult to train him to reach a proper form... I really would check out the team, and think about which players, -that have to be 3-4 mainly- have to be trained more than the rest. The GK is one for sure. Then if that younger 20 aged one plays quite well you can keep him, but if you really want a new amr (as example) with chances to have a good role assigned, you'll need to sell the aml. Still, its posible that if you just have 1 or 2 top performers, there can be space for 1 more, but right now this depend on the other players.
    Hi Khris, 2 tough questions for you!

    1) You've explained very well how 'liberating a role' works. But what about vice versa situation? E.g total amount of the team power is 100. And players are sharing it as A:30, B:20, C:15, D:8 and free power slot is 3. When we sell/sack D player, new assigned power points are proceed as follows; A:30, B:20, C:15... and free power is now 11(3+8).

    What would the shared power points be if we didn't sell D player,but we signed Z player?
    Before: A:30, B:20, C:15, D:8....Available slot:3
    After new sign: A:?, B:?, C:?, D:?...Z:? Available slot:?

    2)How many top performers can we have if we have very dominant and phenomenal scorer(constantly 60+goals league 20+ cup or CL) in our squad ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaiKo View Post
    Hi Khris, 2 tough questions for you!

    1) You've explained very well how 'liberating a role' works. But what about vice versa situation? E.g total amount of the team power is 100. And players are sharing it as A:30, B:20, C:15, D:8 and free power slot is 3. When we sell/sack D player, new assigned power points are proceed as follows; A:30, B:20, C:15... and free power is now 11(3+8).

    What would the shared power points be if we didn't sell D player,but we signed Z player?
    Before: A:30, B:20, C:15, D:8....Available slot:3
    After new sign: A:?, B:?, C:?, D:?...Z:? Available slot:?

    2)How many top performers can we have if we have very dominant and phenomenal scorer(constantly 60+goals league 20+ cup or CL) in our squad ?
    If you do that you'll face the same situation I had, when I kept old glories inside my team till they retire.
    I bought 7 STs, and I couldnt get a single decent player, ans then I realized cause it was cause I had top performers (1*, 2* 3* inside my reserves) waiting to retire.
    There is a limit of roles, that exist to create realism, and cause the engine needs to lcreate a realistic football simulation so, the team needs real football events, goals, assists, fouls, corners, ao a rank of better/worst contribution and aggressivity too.

    There are mainly 2 powers that we have to consider, one, is the Contributive power. The 2nd is, the Dominance power.
    A live match have 25 animations, the more domination a player have assigned, the more slots he'll take. The more contributive power = the more efficency.
    You can perfectly feel the differance between a fluid match and a stuck one.
    If you buy a player with a lot of dominance power but low contribution, then is when the game looks like stuck, because there is a player who occupy a lot of space for nothing. So, its so important, test players and, discard them if needed.

    You can realize too, that usually there are 2 situations; or a key player, (1) resolves the 70% of your games, or, the power is spread between a couple of players and alternating.
    These players, key ones are basically those earning Top Ratings, and top ratings are 9's and 10's -are the same-

    Then once you know how to identify your players behavior based on internal settings, you can try a next step, which is follow the rating patters to anticipate the next performance of your players, and too, as I do, manipulate ratings intentionally, to force "a push" at certain games, cause even the Key players, only keep the 10's for a streak of 2-3 games, and then another players alternate them as decisive players in a match. You can see patterns like 6-8-6-8-6 so after the 6 you can expect a 8.
    So if you force a rating downgrade by keeping players that got a rating drop as reserves + playing with those who should get a drop, in the upcoming match you can have a push.

    Practice.