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    Niko.

    Whats your experience with academy players, are they generally fast trainers?

    Got a 80% GK today for 14T that im tempted to train up and keep for many seasons to come.

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    At the old times (before the update of the academy players), for the most expensive players it was almost a guarantee that the higher (token) value players were very fast trainers.
    Now it's not sure.
    I have an example here #385
    https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...ainers-39.html
    were my 14T player isn't a 1st class fast trainer, but 2nd class.

    Meaning the 1st gets 5 skills, the 2nd gets 4 skills (avg/training).

    But still he isn't slow trainer.
    Some more examples of academy players here
    https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...e-help-me.html

    tips
    * if you want to add sa, give one to one, not penalty specialist. It's better.
    Gonna cost about 40-50 greens.
    And do it now, not after giving skills to quality.

    ** If you re gonna make power-training, avoid to use him in the next days.
    Usually hard training players don't perform well and I guess you have some critical games ahead.
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    Cheers Niko!

    I won't use him until next season so will add SA the moment the new season start, then train him.

    I did 4x goalkeeper training and he gained 4 skills. Haven't been arsed testing more yet, just got him today, but that seems promising.

    EDIT :

    And while on the subject. Is penalty saver even working? My current GK is one. I got a penalty against me last week and there was no sign during simulation that he is penalty saver.

    I didn't make much of that until yesterday.
    Then i got a penalty myself, the opposing GK was a one on one, and that sign was shown during the penalty... Odd?
    Last edited by Shire; 04-20-2017 at 05:59 PM.

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    Hey Niko,
    did i get it right, that the gain in skills by training depends (besides other factors) on the Star-Level of the player but NOT on the level of the skill itself?
    For example:

    A 5* player has a greater gaining in Skills (for example: "Speed") than a 6* Player.

    BUT

    A 5*Player with the Skill "Speed" at 210% gains as much as a 5* Player with only 90% Speed-Skill

    Is that correct?

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    A 5*Player with the Skill "Speed" at 210% gains as much as a 5* Player with only 90% Speed-Skill
    Is that correct?
    yes correct
    proof ?
    many (18 yo) young fast trainers, after 2-3 seasons of power-training, usually have abnormal skills
    For example a ST could have 300% at shooting/ finishing and 30% at tackling.
    So yes, he will have the same progress with a new 18 yo (same q) fast trainer with balanced skills.
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    thank you für the answer!

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    p70 LV30
    End of an era


    So this season (92) old version is no longer available.
    Not only this but we have a new auction system.
    That means many things of this guide have changed.
    The critical ones are :
    All the players are "nordgens" now (but not all are fast trainers).
    We can find nordgens and possible fast trainers, every time of the day.
    So what we can do ? Not much, buy and try.

    Yesterday (1st day of the season) I bought a young MC, at night time (22.00) with 1 token.
    I can say by accident, I didn't want him
    A Guide for fast trainers-nik-new-mc-1t.jpg

    So I made a test, using a set that gives -15% condition loss.
    Used it 4 times and gave 7+3+4+3=17 skills, so about 4 old s.p.
    A prove of a fast trainer.
    And then I sold him with about the same price (also to a bot team).

    A Guide for fast trainers-new-mc-training.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
    So I made a test, using a set that gives -15% condition loss.
    Used it 4 times and gave 7+3+4+3=17 skills, so about 4 old s.p.
    A prove of a fast trainer.
    Hi nik, this is a screenshot of my 0T academy MC, whom I sign today and run same drill exactly same way you did on above [#447]; gain 4+3+6+5=18 skills, -15% CL, What do you think


    A Guide for fast trainers-academy-player.jpg
    btw, only 'stretch' drill is 2 whistle and rest drills on the set were world class [stretch+PGS+FCA+PTP+ST+SD]

    A Guide for fast trainers-0t-academy-mc.jpg

    main downside for this player is low Q, need tons of green
    Last edited by ibangali; 05-11-2017 at 06:09 PM.
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    For sure he is a slow trainer (for his age).
    My player got those skills while he is a (high) 5* player when yours is 2*
    The lower the stars, the more must be the gaining.
    So Molina should hit not less than 7 skills (avg) in every pack, to consider him as a fast trainer.
    I would try to make him 39% quality (for negotiation list) and maybe if have some descent offer of 2-3 T to sell him.
    * without spending extra greens for him.
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    That's I'm going to do because selling players on TM is pain now.
    Thanks

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