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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    @k1tb
    Here
    https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...iners-39.html7
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    I had a post about an academy player I bought, Lygos, 5* quality _0, with 14 tokens.
    He wansn't top fast trainer (a 2nd class as I call them).
    So, I don't know, I don't think I 'll buy another unless he has some rare position like ML-AML or MR-AMR or is very difficult for you to find a fast trainer.
    A player only with a DC position isn't worthy.

    The player of @belier is really a fast trainer but
    - this is not the original anymore and can't help to anything else

    - it's worthy to give him also a AMR position and maybe an extra sa (like shadow striker) but you must do it now before increasing his quality further !
    if he will be near or 6* player, his gaining gonna drop to +100 / +120
    You recommend me to give a new position and the SA before training him anymore, then?

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    before training him anymore
    that's for sure 100%. Always the sa and extra position first and then adding to quality.

    new position
    , yes AMR

    and the SA
    , well, that's depends from your stock , the ability of gathering greens and the general management of your team.
    * for example if you don't have any defender with "header" or "defensive wall" in your team, it's a waste to give 40-50 greens for a shadow striker or a play-maker
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    that's for sure 100%. Always the sa and extra position first and then adding to quality.

    , yes AMR

    , well, that's depends from your stock , the ability of gathering greens and the general management of your team.
    * for example if you don't have any defender with "header" or "defensive wall" in your team, it's a waste to give 40-50 greens for a shadow striker or a play-maker
    I gather 28 greens a day. My current stock is 620.
    I have a defensive wall defender. Also a fast trainer.
    But I won't be teaching an SA to a player who is not an fast trainer.
    I'm waiting for tomorrow morning to get a new player in the fresh market.

    This player is getting a full SA or NP for 60 rests.

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    Hello Niko,

    thx for the interesting insights!
    I have a question about identifying a fast Trainer:

    You wrote in the new Version a FT should gain at least 4% Skills by Training with 18% Condition Loss. Which Quality of Training Methods are you assuming?
    Is this only valid for the best (highest Quality) Training drills? Most of my Trainings have "Level Amateur (2 Whistles)"

    Couldn't find any answer to that. Another Question: By Upgrading the Drill from 1 Whistle to 2 Whistles, the Level stays "Amateur". Why ist that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iGude View Post
    Hello Niko,

    thx for the interesting insights!
    I have a question about identifying a fast Trainer:

    You wrote in the new Version a FT should gain at least 4% Skills by Training with 18% Condition Loss. Which Quality of Training Methods are you assuming?
    Is this only valid for the best (highest Quality) Training drills? Most of my Trainings have "Level Amateur (2 Whistles)"

    Couldn't find any answer to that. Another Question: By Upgrading the Drill from 1 Whistle to 2 Whistles, the Level stays "Amateur". Why ist that?
    What I'm currently doing is use the spreadsheet to find the best training drills that cover the most, if not it all, of his highlighted skill attributes. I try not to cover any of the grey ones.
    Even if you have 2 whistles, a fast trainer should gain at least 4% with 18%.

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    Even if you have 2 whistles, a fast trainer should gain at least 4% with 18%.
    yes, it's true.
    The first step is to detect a fast trainer
    the second is to confirm it
    as about developing, there are other threads with more details for that
    here Toxcatl gathered some
    https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...ost-found.html

    also I (and others) have some notes here
    https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...-training.html
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    ok thx to you both!

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    hey guys I need ur help I bought this player today and I wonder if he is a fast trainer or no(I am lvl 3)
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    yes he is but not from the faster.
    Try to buy higher quality players, round 90%.
    He is almost 3* and gonna need a lot of greens to make him a 6* player.
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    Then i will sell it right now.
    How about this ST ?
    A Guide for fast trainers-screenshot_2017-04-02-21-57-45.jpgA Guide for fast trainers-screenshot_2017-04-02-21-57-50.jpg

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