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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    Hi Buff
    I would appreciate if you post the Values (if possible before adding the skills) and the wages of those players so I could figure the TR FACTOR.
    Thanks
    Unfortunately I did not record their signing MVs so any MVs that I can offer would be quite heavily increased from the original and would not relate to their signing wage. I can't get historic Renew wages so I offer below, at the end, some information on MV etc with 0 unallocated points, 7 unallocated points and after those 7 have been allocated.

    For Jim Baxter Academy Recruit I can offer the following:

    18, 4*, 37Q, MV=7.3m, Wage=85k, Max Gain=175
    18, 6*, 47Q, MV13.5m, Wage=85k, Max Gain=107
    19, 6*, 50Q#, MV= 13.6m, Wage=85k, Max Gain=106 Renew Wage=240k

    #no unallocated sp; 3 more SP would take him to 51Q
    after accumulating 7 additional unallocated sp ofc his MV and wage and renew wage remains unchanged
    after allocating the 7 sp

    18, 6*, 51Q, MV=14.2m, Wage=85k, Renew Wage=440k

    However as I'm not sure what you're trying to deiscover, and can't see the usefullness (yet) of comparing MV and wages for developed players - I won't offer anymore data without additional clarity. (I have several fast(ish) trainers with unallocated points ready.

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    Thanks for the info mate.
    I believe that only the first value and wage prices counts.
    I believe I find a formula to detect a fast trainer.
    Training Factor , for Baxter for example is TR FACTOR VALUE 7.3M / WAGE 85K =85,88 . It's big number so that's why he is fast trainer.
    Ok , he is from Academy but if he was in Transfer market and you were thinking to buy or not , this formula could help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    Thanks for the info mate.
    I believe that only the first value and wage prices counts.
    I believe I find a formula to detect a fast trainer.
    Training Factor , for Baxter for example is TR FACTOR VALUE 7.3M / WAGE 85K =85,88 . It's big number so that's why he is fast trainer.
    Ok , he is from Academy but if he was in Transfer market and you were thinking to buy or not , this formula could help.
    Yep, but thats the problem, I don't think that was his original MV. And I know how the MV and Wage skews which is why I asked. (At first I was only adding points to increase my return on him but then I picked him for a training experiment because he had the greatest scope to capture training data on.)

    I'd guess however that over the 30 or 40 or so the impact on training rate becomes minimal and there is the potential for the weird nature of NordGens to skew the training factor high with no impact on actual training gains.

    But thanks for clarifying because I'm sure I'll be able to find some recorded 'starting MV' and when I do I'll put something together. And if not I've a couple of new guys that might fit the bill with some training.
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    Hey Buff, just to give you an example

    this Nordgen player

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    has Train Factor VALUE 2.03M/ WAGE 77K = 26,36 . He has 5*, he is nordgen, maybe he will be a good player but with low TR FACTOR will not be fast trainer. So if I wanted a fast trainer I would choose someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    Hey Buff, just to give you an example

    this Nordgen player

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    has Train Factor VALUE 2.03M/ WAGE 77K = 26,36 . He has 5*, he is nordgen, maybe he will be a good player but with low TR FACTOR will not be fast trainer. So if I wanted a fast trainer I would choose someone else.
    Not a gem, from an actual team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat Harrison View Post
    Not a gem, from an actual team.
    True story Faithful FC... AC Umbeatable... AC Frisky ... Happy FC.... FC Dry, Interest FC, these are names of Nordeus teams, that sell, what we call Nordgens... we had a thread with some names weeeeeeks ago

    hmmm look at these names, without AC and FC... Cooperative... Priestly...
    in this pic only the 1st and 2nd are real clubs

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