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    Quote Originally Posted by cirkat07 View Post
    Level 7 to Level 8 p33
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    lev 1: max q24 2,5-3,3 M WAGE 15-20K-------->Factor 3000/15=200.......400K-1,3M_____25-40K
    lev 2: max q29 3,5-4 M WAGE 30-50K------->Factor 4000/30=133...........800-2M ______60-80K
    lev3: max q34 5,5-6 M WAGE 80-100K-------->Factor 6000/80=75..........3M_________140K
    lev4: max q39 7.5-8 M WAGE 140-160K------->Factor 8000/140=57........3M-5M____160-240K
    lv 5 max q44 max 10-11M WAGE 220-260K------->Factor 11000/220=51..........6,5 M _____280-400K
    lv6 - max q49 max 12-15M WAGE 330-370K-------->Factor 15000/330=45..........5-9M_____450-560K
    lv7 - max q 54 max 17-19M WAGE 500-540K-------->Factor 19000/540=35.........11-12M_____700
    lv 8 - max q 59 - max 24-25M WAGE 700-820K------>Factor 24000/700=32........14-18M______1M
    lv 9 - max q 64 - max 31-32M WAGE 1 M-------->Factor 30M/1M =30................. 22M_______ 1,7M
    lv 10 - max q69 - max 38-39M WAGE 1,4 M-------->Factor 39M/1,4M=28 .............25M________2M
    lv 11 - max q74 - max 48-50M WAGE 1,9M--------->Factor 50M/1,9M=26.............34M________2,5M
    lv12 - max q79 - max 59-61M WAGE 2,5M--------->Factor 59M/2,5M=22.............40M________3M

    lv13 - max q84 - max 73-75M WAGE 3,2M--------->Factor 73M/3,2M=22
    lv 14- max q89 - max 83-86M WAGE 3,9M--------->Factor 83M/3,9M=21
    lv 15- max q94 - max 90-92M WAGE 4,9M--------->Factor 91M/4,9M=19
    lv 16- max q99 - max 104M WAGE 6M----------->Factor 104M/6M=17,5
    lv 17- max q104 - max 105M WAGE 7,7M--------->Factor 105M/7M=15
    lv 18- max q109 - max 106M WAGE 9M----------->Factor 106M/9M=12
    lv 19- max q114 - max 106M WAGE 11M
    lv 20- max q119 - max 107M WAGE 13M
    lv 21- max q124 - max 107M WAGE 15M
    lv 22- max q129 - max 108M WAGE 17M
    lv 23- max q134 - max 108-109 M WAGE 19M
    lv 24- max q139 - max 109M WAGE 24M
    lv 25- max q144 - max 110M WAGE 29M--------->Factor
    lv 26- max q149 - max 110M WAGE 32M--------->Factor
    lv 27- max q154 - max 110-111M WAGE 32M--------->Factor
    lv 28- max q159 - max 111-112 M WAGE 42M
    lv 29- max q164 - max 113M WAGE 43M--------->Factor
    lv 30- max q169 - max 113M WAGE 44M
    lv 31- max q174 - max 114M WAGE 44M--------->Factor
    lv 32- max q179 - max 115M WAGE 45M--------->Factor
    lv 33- max q184 - max 126M WAGE 47M
    lv 34- max q189 - max 127M WAGE 47M
    lv 35- max q194 - max 127M WAGE 47M

    lv 39- max q214 - max 127M WAGE 49M

    I hope you guys can make me understand this.

    I am going to be level 12 next season and I've just took an abandoned team and I want to play with it, build it, etc.

    So I want to focus more on fast trainers, now let me see if I got it right.

    As a LEVEL 12 the max I should pay for a player would be around 59-61M Cash, his wage should be around 2,5M or less, so the factor for a good fast trainer should be 22 or higher, or a bit less.

    I am wrong? If yes, can you explain to me please?
    someone could help me please?

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    salaries border that data and the value / salary division should border factor 22
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    Quote Originally Posted by cirkat07 View Post
    someone could help me please?
    You are right.
    You need to divide Value by Wage and then look in the table for the closest quality for comparison (ignore levels completely: quality matters, levels don't). When choosing, don't pay attention to the Wage -- all players of same quality have the same Wage.
    The table is not very detailed, so gather your own data too, it will help you greatly.
    Last edited by Toxcatl; 11-09-2017 at 01:20 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxcatl View Post
    You are right.
    You need to divide Value by Wage and then look in the table for the closest quality for comparison (ignore levels completely: quality matters, levels don't). When choosing, don't pay attention to the Wage -- all players of same quality have the same Wage.
    The table is not very detailed, so gather your own data too, it will help you greatly.
    where is this table that you mentioned btw?

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    So in level 12, I have to watch for young players, divide the value with the wage and the result should be smth like 22, no? @Toxcatl

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    Quote Originally Posted by hullabaloo View Post
    where is this table that you mentioned btw?
    https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...tml#post316491

    Quote Originally Posted by cirkat07 View Post
    So in level 12, I have to watch for young players, divide the value with the wage and the result should be smth like 22, no? @Toxcatl
    Have I mentioned that level doesn't matter?

    Take 18 y/o player, divide his Value by Wage, and then look in the table for the closest quality for comparison.
    These "max q74, q79, q84" etc. are qualities. If your player is q75, you should compare him with the row "max q74" even if you are lvl 12. Players q77 should be compared with the average (approximately) between rows "q74" and "q79". Again, level by itself doesn't matter, quality does.
    The table ideally should be filled for every quality point, not for every 5. Nik did a terrific job anyway.
    Last edited by Toxcatl; 11-09-2017 at 05:14 PM.
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    thanks for the table!
    Looks like the table is for the game on the previous servers. Now we can't see the name of the selling team anymore and at my level (28) there are several 18-19 year olds with a value of 111 and wage at 42m. This means that all of these should fast trainers - but i know for certain that some of them aren't (i bought and tried training them and got terrible results lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxcatl View Post


    Have I mentioned that level doesn't matter?

    Take 18 y/o player, divide his Value by Wage, and then look in the table for the closest quality for comparison.
    These "max q74, q79, q84" etc. are qualities. If your player is q75, you should compare him with the row "max q74" even if you are lvl 12. Players q77 should be compared with the average (approximately) between rows "q74" and "q79". Again, level by itself doesn't matter, quality does.
    The table ideally should be filled for every quality point, not for every 5. Nik did a terrific job anyway.
    Ahm.. I woke up at 7:00 AM europe and I Look for fast trainers But the max I get when I divide value with is 22, is him a Fast trainer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cirkat07 View Post
    Ahm.. I woke up at 7:00 AM europe and I Look for fast trainers But the max I get when I divide value with is 22, is him a Fast trainer?
    Gimme a screenshot.
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    Ok guys, let me explain few things.
    This guide and this summary was written in old T11 when in the market were only few nordgens (nordeus generated players).
    So this factor of value/price was helping not only to detect the nordgen fast trainers but players-fast trainers from other (human) teams too.
    For example 2* academy players from teams 3 levels above - which are not all fast trainers.
    Now were the market has only nordgens, you don't need to look for this factor, just try to find players close to the higher value of that level.
    This board is still accurate about this.
    Also it doesn't need to check specific hours. Now there are nordgens 24 hours a day. Just check the market often.

    When you find and buy a nordgen, give him a (random) set of drills with condition loss 15-18% while you start an extra position or sa.
    If he can get +1 in every set (give him 3-4 times this set, for testing), he is a fast trainer.

    High quality (recommended players of 118%) and age (players above 21 y.o.) , still are "negative" factors of gaining.
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