A Guide for fast trainers

[hullabaloo]

Read this reply and the next two.

thanks for the reply!

I read those three posts but they didnt really say anything about where to find the name of the selling team

[Cedric]

salaries border that data and the value / salary division should border factor 22

[cirkat07]

So in level 12, I have to watch for young players, divide the value with the wage and the result should be smth like 22, no? @Toxcatl

[hullabaloo]

thanks for the table!
Looks like the table is for the game on the previous servers. Now we can't see the name of the selling team anymore and at my level (28) there are several 18-19 year olds with a value of 111 and wage at 42m. This means that all of these should fast trainers - but i know for certain that some of them aren't (i bought and tried training them and got terrible results lol)

[cirkat07]

Have I mentioned that level doesn't matter?

Take 18 y/o player, divide his Value by Wage, and then look in the table for the closest quality for comparison.
These "max q74, q79, q84" etc. are qualities. If your player is q75, you should compare him with the row "max q74" even if you are lvl 12. Players q77 should be compared with the average (approximately) between rows "q74" and "q79". Again, level by itself doesn't matter, quality does.
The table ideally should be filled for every quality point, not for every 5. Nik did a terrific job anyway.

Ahm.. I woke up at 7:00 AM europe and I Look for fast trainers But the max I get when I divide value with is 22, is him a Fast trainer?

[Toxcatl]

Ahm.. I woke up at 7:00 AM europe and I Look for fast trainers But the max I get when I divide value with is 22, is him a Fast trainer?

Gimme a screenshot.

[nikolgiorgos]

Ok guys, let me explain few things.
This guide and this summary was written in old T11 when in the market were only few nordgens (nordeus generated players).
So this factor of value/price was helping not only to detect the nordgen fast trainers but players-fast trainers from other (human) teams too.
For example 2* academy players from teams 3 levels above - which are not all fast trainers.
Now were the market has only nordgens, you don't need to look for this factor, just try to find players close to the higher value of that level.
This board is still accurate about this.
Also it doesn't need to check specific hours. Now there are nordgens 24 hours a day. Just check the market often.

When you find and buy a nordgen, give him a (random) set of drills with condition loss 15-18% while you start an extra position or sa.
If he can get +1 in every set (give him 3-4 times this set, for testing), he is a fast trainer.

High quality (recommended players of 118%) and age (players above 21 y.o.) , still are "negative" factors of gaining.

[hullabaloo]

Ok guys, let me explain few things.
This guide and this summary was written in old T11 when in the market were only few nordgens (nordeus generated players).
So this factor of value/price was helping not only to detect the nordgen fast trainers but players-fast trainers from other (human) teams too.
For example 2* academy players from teams 3 levels above - which are not all fast trainers.
Now were the market has only nordgens, you don't need to look for this factor, just try to find players close to the higher value of that level.
This board is still accurate about this.
Also it doesn't need to check specific hours. Now there are nordgens 24 hours a day. Just check the market often.

When you find and buy a nordgen, give him a (random) set of drills with condition loss 15-18% while you start an extra position or sa.
If he can get +1 in every set (give him 3-4 times this set, for testing), he is a fast trainer.

High quality (recommended players of 118%) and age (players above 21 y.o.) , still are "negative" factors of gaining.

thanks for this very great clarification!

Just a quick question - when you say that the player should get +1 in every drill, sometimes players get 0 plusses in the first training session but if you re-do it they'll get 3-5.

[nikolgiorgos]

- First , I 'm talking about +1 to position or s.ability, not to skills.
For skills it's about +4 skills average.

It's good to give 3-4 set of drills to observe this avg/

Check also those examples
#436
https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...ainers-44.html

#447
https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...ainers-45.html

[GloryHinter]

I bought a 18 y/o ST/AML of 95% quality. Used 51 rest packs to give him SA and trained him to 99% quality. But after having 6 star quality, he gains just 3 skills for average condition loss of 17%. I used 23 rest packs to increase his quality from 100% to 103%.I used Speed Dribbling + Shooting Technique to power train him.

How many rest packs do we need to power train a FT from 6 star to 7 star quality? Is my ST a Fast Trainer or not?