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    An update for level 15



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    That's interesting.
    Another guy told me (also Greek, Jorje Volos) before 1-2 months that he had found a player with 100 M' (which is much higher from the old max value of 90-92 M').
    I asked for some pic, maybe it was some misunderstanding but didn't have any news.
    Let's see.
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    p LV39

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    p83 LV40

    At LV40 the max price still is 127 M' (which is also the max price at lvs 37,38,39).

    Let's see if there is also something else besides the millions, maybe some "hidden" thousands $ we cannot see but have some effect in which are fast players (or not).
    I have plenty of young players, some new 18-19 y.o. and some older from previous season.

    Making a sort by value, I can see that every time I get the same list of players.
    A Guide for fast trainers-team-d2-13-young.jpg

    It looks like Stiven has the higher value and STAM the lower, more that SNEIJDER who is 4* but I intend to invest few extra greens.

    I took those 13 players and gave them a set of six GK drills (which is very helpful to save some time), 10 times.
    In some of the players, the gaining goes to an extra position or sa (those with the red numbers) and some for gaining skills.

    After the GK sets, I gave once Press the play for defenders, Slalom for my MC and Wing play for my attackers.

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    Then I gave ten more GK sets to all and again the same final drill as above.
    I spend about 24 greens for each player.

    A Guide for fast trainers-gk-train-13.jpg

    What I can see

    Gaining sa/position
    ROBEN, HEITINGA and Stiven were high in the Value list and gain a good number.
    VAN PERSIE, lower in the list, had +22 positions for 24 greens and STAM, the last one of the list, with +20, gives an explanation of that.
    Not a 1st class ft but has already 3 useful positions.
    SNEIJDER was no12 on the value list but I think it's because he has low quality.
    After gaining a star, I think he will level up in that list.

    Gaining quality
    Let's see the gaining of quality (the blue numbers).
    Remember that 4 extra skills has about the same value of a +1 to sa or position.

    DE WOLF & VAN NISTELROY were high in Value list so their gaining was good.
    SILOY was a surprise as he is lower in the list but he got 75 which is good.

    No surprise for the others.
    Maybe I was expecting some more from OVERMARS but I 'll try again.

    So in generals, I would say that there is some connection between gaining and some "hidden" value of players -
    which is common in higher levels.

    Where I can use it ?
    In this case I must study more the list of my players and decide to whom I 'll invest my greens.
    Also if I see together some young players in auctions, I can make a sort in value and maybe have a clue who is the ft.
    The same in negotiations list if there are players with similar characteristics.
    Last edited by nikolgiorgos; 09-18-2018 at 08:34 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    That's interesting.
    Another guy told me (also Greek, Jorje Volos) before 1-2 months that he had found a player with 100 M' (which is much higher from the old max value of 90-92 M').
    I asked for some pic, maybe it was some misunderstanding but didn't have any news.
    Let's see.
    I have found many players at 15 level that cost 100-102m.
    Would be interesting to see if this price difference is significant or not.
    So i ll buy a 92mil FT and a 100mil FT to see what happens.


    I bought this players:

    A Guide for fast trainers-ft1.jpg

    A Guide for fast trainers-ft2.jpg

    I gave them 10 sets of GK training and the results were:

    the 101m ML gain 56 skill points


    A Guide for fast trainers-ml-after.jpg

    the 94.4 GK gain 50 skill points

    A Guide for fast trainers-gk-after.jpg

    The difference is 0.6 skill point per session,
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    Dear Niko, what do you think of this ST with FREE KICK? I bought it last season to resell them in negotiations but I lost my hand in training and now I'm up to 99% ... It will be good to invest the greens in this ... ?? I'm at level 11 xD

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    lv 11 - max q74 - max 48-50M WAGE 1,9M
    so he is a slow trainer.
    I don't know if he has a talent in F-K and scores a lot from there but remember that sa isn't a big deal.
    A good player can scores a lot vs opponents with same or lower quality but loose a lot of his ability vs higher q opponents.

    If I could get him at 99%, I would sell him for some good offer.
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    Niko talking of fast trainers are your stats still accurate which i found on the search ie the price.
    Level 4 i should be looking around the 7M to 8M for a good fast rainer with wages around 140-160k

    lev 1: max q24 2,5-3,3 M WAGE 15-20K-------->Factor 3000/15=200.......400K-1,3M_____25-40K
    lev 2: max q29 3,5-4 M WAGE 30-50K------->Factor 4000/30=133...........800-2M ______60-80K
    lev 3: max q34 5,5-6 M WAGE 80-100K-------->Factor 6000/80=75..........3M_________140K
    lev 4: max q39 7.5-8 M WAGE 140-160K------->Factor 8000/140=57........3M-5M____160-240K
    lev 5 max q44 max 10-11M WAGE 220-260K------->Factor 11000/220=51..........6,5 M _____280-400K
    lev6 - max q49 max 12-15M WAGE 330-370K-------->Factor 15000/330=45..........5-9M_____450-560K
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    - here is the right place
    - yes, they are correct.
    The only questionable so far, is the top price of LV 15 ft.
    - don't pay attention to wages, focus on value
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    Level 16 this season and strange things occurs again.
    From quality 95(80%) till quality 99(99%) the maximum price is the same 104m
    but the TF difference is huge cause the sallary of players with 95 quality is 5.3m
    and players with 99 quality is 6.2m. Are those players training the same as they rich the same quality?

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