Wake up Nordeus!!!!!.....again

[Cat Harrison]

The solution they originally mentioned on the Forum was the 3 hour between matches thing, but this was not good for a fair number of people that hold their own tournements (why can't spell that word) between groups of friends, and just plain for between a couple friends, they would rather it be possible to play any time, so the asymetrical (I gave up on spelling today) is basically the solution that is a "no-harm" to the invitee, that is to say, no injuries/condition loss for invitee, but the originator of the match does have condition loss and possible injury.

I'm not as familiar with on-line games as some of you, but a little patience is going to be required for changes to be implemented, as you can see from what MDKII said, they have to make sure it doesn't bomb out before full release.

[cracicot]

The solution they originally mentioned on the Forum was the 3 hour between matches thing, but this was not good for a fair number of people that hold their own tournements (why can't spell that word) between groups of friends, and just plain for between a couple friends, they would rather it be possible to play any time, so the asymetrical (I gave up on spelling today) is basically the solution that is a "no-harm" to the invitee, that is to say, no injuries/condition loss for invitee, but the originator of the match does have condition loss and possible injury.

I'm not as familiar with on-line games as some of you, but a little patience is going to be required for changes to be implemented, as you can see from what MDKII said, they have to make sure it doesn't bomb out before full release.

I disagree on your first point. The 3 hours between matches thing had nothing to do with friendlies. It was a 3 hour minimum between games on your schedule, I believe.

using the word asymmetrical for anything other than shapes/formations is just wrong. - having parts which fail to correspond to one another in shape, size, or arrangement; lacking symmetry. It just shows that someone like to use big words and impress people without knowing what they mean....you know who I am talking about.

Making the manager who initiates the friendly as the only party to lose condition and get injured is an acceptable solution. Like I said, someone can friendly me until the cows come home as long as it doesnt affect me at all. knock yourself out!

The only other acceptable solution is to be able to confirm and/or accept the friendly before it happens. Being able to complete turn off friendlies would be perfect.

The multi-platform excuse is a cop-out. A few other programmers have confirmed this.

[BigB79]

Lets be honest here, if the British quit rather than complained, we would all be speaking German right now.

Maybe back then but unfortunately with modern day Britain it's far much easier to quit than complain for far too many people.

[BigB79]

I'm not as familiar with on-line games as some of you, but a little patience is going to be required for changes to be implemented, as you can see from what MDKII said, they have to make sure it doesn't bomb out before full release.

I think we are way past having a little patience. 2 years to change the friendly requests and a year to change how many tokens it takes to change a players squad number and quite a few other things that have taken far too long to get done? Is that acceptable?

[kebess]

I went on a group job interview today, and half that group got knocked out after the first test... Guess why ?
All they had was excuses about why they did so bad, and obviously no results...

You may have the best excuse in the whole Universe, but who gives a damn ? Excuses are useless without at least "some" concrete results.

[Ahmet Aygun]

I had a match played couple hours ago, and when I become online instead of first checking the result I check this thread. So having to see some action from Nordeus people even when we are hopeless are more exciting than playing the game.

Marca wrote:

Nordeus have mad a game, for free. If people choose to spend their money on it then that is THEIR choice. It is quite easy to play the game for free and not buy any tokens but if you CHOOSE to spend money on it then it is YOUR CHOICE. And it is a choice I make.

Nope you know that this is not true. If players could be improved faster; this could be true. Other than that you can play the game free, but it wouldn't called playing. All of us in this forum knows that it takes 3 seasons tops for a 5 star player to become 2 or 3 star player. And no-one wants to play this game with full of 2 and 3 star players in his team. So if you want to enjoy this game you must spend money, and I don't know any person who just play a game that he/she doesn't enjoy at all.

On top of these no-one in this thread is crying to get results; instead everyone wants the game to be better. It should be the Nordeus asking our feedback, but instead of working our feedbacks; they are working on their excuses I suppose.

[Cat Harrison]

You can successfully play this game and have fun without spending money. I have done, and I am certain others on this forum have. I also have fun with the game with spending for tokens, so I do think either way is fun. So, truly to each their own on that...

I guess I have more patience, which surprises the heck out of me, I am not known for that. I have played console games that were buggy, and *never* got updated. So I look at this as they are working on it, and I like the game as it is anyway. I have only had a couple friendlies foisted on me, and they regretted it more than I.

The three hour between was to include friendlies I believe and that as I mentioned was a issue for people who wanted to schedule friendlies at their convenience and couldn't if it was too near a regular match.

[Raykco]

I've been reading all these moans about the game and have decided to contribute my own thoughts.

First of all, I am now just finishing my 16th season in the game. YES, I've been frustrated at times, but that's life. In those 16 seasons, I've won 6 trophies (4 league, 2 CL), so not as many as some of the players even in lower levels. But I play for the enjoyment of it. Now I do buy a small amount of tokens each season, (usually around 60). But now to the topic. Of course there are problems with the game (what on-line game doesn't have them). Most of the significant faults can be got around by the players themselves and don't need the programmers to sort it.

FRIENDLIES: This seems to be the main issue. Sure, unwanted matches are a pain, but that can easily remedied by us ourselves. Only have friends who are of similar mind to us. If you get these matches that you don't want, simply unfriend the person (if in game), or contact the other person and tell them not to send these requests (if on FB). I have just under 100 in game friends on here, and I only get unwanted requests on average once every two seasons.

KICK-OFF TIMES: This can be a problem, but with a global game, time zones etc, will sometimes be troublesome, so I can't really see there is a simple solution.

MATCH RESULTS: OK, we've all lost to much lower quality teams, on more than a few occasions, but that is the nature of sport. Would the game be better if the stronger team always won? I doubt it. It would get boring. And incidentally, I can't remember on too many occasions, a player complaining that they didn't think it fair that they'd beaten a much stronger team, when they shouldn't have.

INJURIES: Now this issue seems a real problem. I have to agree with people who say there are too many, but there again, nobody can know for sure what sort of tackling our opponents are using, and also we can attract injuries ourselves by using the "hard tackling" setting.

STATS/RATINGS: Frankly I can't see any issue with these. Sure, they bare no resemblance to completed matches, but does it REALLY matter? In all the time I've been playing, there is probably only a handful of times that I've even bothered to read them.

NAME CHANGING: Now this is the part that really irritates me. Some people want this facility to be free. Why? The name of a player (or their shirt number), makes no difference to the game play. Changing a name or number is only cosmetic value, and if anyone is sad enough to want to change them, then why shouldn't they pay. I've had a striker and a winger wearing #1 before. So what?

Now for the only real problem I have with the game, ILLEGAL FORMATION. I don't think this should be applicable. If we want to play without a striker, or have just two defenders, that should be our right.

On the whole, I don't think this is a bad game, and for the most part, I am happy with it. Sorry this is a bit long, and I guess I'll just be shot down for my comments, but this is my opinion.

[cracicot]

I've been reading all these moans about the game and have decided to contribute my own thoughts.

First of all, I am now just finishing my 16th season in the game. YES, I've been frustrated at times, but that's life. In those 16 seasons, I've won 6 trophies (4 league, 2 CL), so not as many as some of the players even in lower levels. But I play for the enjoyment of it. Now I do buy a small amount of tokens each season, (usually around 60). But now to the topic. Of course there are problems with the game (what on-line game doesn't have them). Most of the significant faults can be got around by the players themselves and don't need the programmers to sort it.

FRIENDLIES: This seems to be the main issue. Sure, unwanted matches are a pain, but that can easily remedied by us ourselves. Only have friends who are of similar mind to us. If you get these matches that you don't want, simply unfriend the person (if in game), or contact the other person and tell them not to send these requests (if on FB). I have just under 100 in game friends on here, and I only get unwanted requests on average once every two seasons.

KICK-OFF TIMES: This can be a problem, but with a global game, time zones etc, will sometimes be troublesome, so I can't really see there is a simple solution.

MATCH RESULTS: OK, we've all lost to much lower quality teams, on more than a few occasions, but that is the nature of sport. Would the game be better if the stronger team always won? I doubt it. It would get boring. And incidentally, I can't remember on too many occasions, a player complaining that they didn't think it fair that they'd beaten a much stronger team, when they shouldn't have.

INJURIES: Now this issue seems a real problem. I have to agree with people who say there are too many, but there again, nobody can know for sure what sort of tackling our opponents are using, and also we can attract injuries ourselves by using the "hard tackling" setting.

STATS/RATINGS: Frankly I can't see any issue with these. Sure, they bare no resemblance to completed matches, but does it REALLY matter? In all the time I've been playing, there is probably only a handful of times that I've even bothered to read them.

NAME CHANGING: Now this is the part that really irritates me. Some people want this facility to be free. Why? The name of a player (or their shirt number), makes no difference to the game play. Changing a name or number is only cosmetic value, and if anyone is sad enough to want to change them, then why shouldn't they pay. I've had a striker and a winger wearing #1 before. So what?

Now for the only real problem I have with the game, ILLEGAL FORMATION. I don't think this should be applicable. If we want to play without a striker, or have just two defenders, that should be our right.

On the whole, I don't think this is a bad game, and for the most part, I am happy with it. Sorry this is a bit long, and I guess I'll just be shot down for my comments, but this is my opinion.

I disagree that most of the problems can be got around and we dont need the programmers to sort them. The fact that there are problems, problems that any programmer can fix, is the issue. Rather than have your opinion on the issues you have listed, I would prefer to have MDKII deal with them point-by-point and explain where they are in regards to all of them. No offense Raykco, but nobody cares what you think of the issues, just as nobody cares about my opinions on them, because we cant do anything about them. We are only people with opinions and complaints, while MDKII is the voice of Nordeus and his word means something.

But here are mine:

Friendlies: yes, we know the easy solution, but its not the CORRECT solution. This is not a FB issue, its a T11 issue. They have the knowledge and capability to fix this issue satisfactorily to all managers but they refuse to. Why? They cant give a reason good enough to justify any action except to limit damage in terms of condition and injuries OR to allow the manager to outright accept them before they can be played. Anything other than these two solutions is disgrace.

Kick-off times: I agree with you in that time zones of individual managers make it hard to make everyone happy. But you forgot to address the 3 hour minimum between games which everyone wants. If someone doesnt want it, then they are just being difficult, because it benefits all and puts absolutely nobody out. Sure, Nordeus will lose tokens to this, but its the CORRECT thing to do on their part.

Match Results: What more can be said??? The troll engine is horrible at the best of times. the manager who beat me in the Cup semis didnt watch any of his games, including the final and won all of them. and he wasnt the best team in the cup draw either. He was countered, had nobody supporting and still won the final 2-0. I watched it and supported the other team (yes, I was bitter). teams with 9 men due to injury and red cards win against better quality teams far too often. The higher quality team does not always have to win, but there are too many troll wins where logic dictates that the result is just wrong on several levels. What we are asking for is consistency and logic to rule for the most part. There should still be upsets, of course, but make it logical, not fantastical.

Injuries: Too many. end of story. I wont say more on this because I have already said it ad naseum.

Stats/Ratings: Sorry for being the bearer of bad news - your lack of interest in the stats/ratings is irrelevant. Everyone wants to know why or how they lost/won. The fact that you can have bad ratings and still open a can of whoop-ass on your opponent is mystifying. For morale to go down like it does, does not make sense. the ratings are tied to morale in a bad way. We KNOW why, the wasting of blue boosters. We can accept that something has to happen for us to need to use them. OK, we are good with that. BUT, at least make it make sense. Not only that, but more than occasionally you have shots on target that outnumber total shots. Just some shoddy work on the programming side and ****ty work on the managerial side for not proofing it first before releasing it.

Name Changing: Who cares? I dont. What difference does it make that they promised? to remove the charge of 1 token for it 2 years ago and have still not done it? I agree with you in that it is cosmetic and it should cost a token to do it, at worst. But at the end of the day I think people would have more fun if they were not charged for it and they would be happier and more proud of their teams full of Messis and Ronaldos or their own last names and favourite numbers. It is certainly better than the 3 tokens that it used to be apparently, but really, ZERO tokens would be the CORRECT thing to do.

Illegal Formations: Like you, I have a serious problem with this. they have this programmed wrong, and its not the fault of the devs, its managerial, because they should understand the issue and have the devs re-program it. I play against an IF (illegal formation) tonight and its all up the middle and very hard to beat. 3N-1-2N-1-3. i beat them 0-3 in the first game, but he still had 7 shots (3 on target), and 6 corners. He has 1 win and 1 draw. It should be 26 losses. there are too many positives with only 20% possession. they should limit the corners, shots on target, tackles and score to reflect the 20% possession. This is not Barca or Bayern with 20% possession which would still give you a serious run for your money. They need a facking popup to tell you you have an IF. They already have a popup to tell you a player is out of position. Why not for the IF? Look, they want you to stick to certain formations for whatever reason so they penalize you with lack of possession if you choose an IF, so why bother allowing the IF in the first place? Just have a popup tell you that it is illegal and not allow you to save the formation until you put a player in the default positions.

I agree it is not a bad game, just poorly run. They have a lot of work to do still and should not be charging what they are charging for such an incomplete game. BAD MANAGEMENT! Nordeus you should be ashamed of yourselves.

[herdo]

I've been reading all these moans about the game and have decided to contribute my own thoughts.

First of all, I am now just finishing my 16th season in the game. YES, I've been frustrated at times, but that's life. In those 16 seasons, I've won 6 trophies (4 league, 2 CL), so not as many as some of the players even in lower levels. But I play for the enjoyment of it. Now I do buy a small amount of tokens each season, (usually around 60). But now to the topic. Of course there are problems with the game (what on-line game doesn't have them). Most of the significant faults can be got around by the players themselves and don't need the programmers to sort it.

FRIENDLIES: This seems to be the main issue. Sure, unwanted matches are a pain, but that can easily remedied by us ourselves. Only have friends who are of similar mind to us. If you get these matches that you don't want, simply unfriend the person (if in game), or contact the other person and tell them not to send these requests (if on FB). I have just under 100 in game friends on here, and I only get unwanted requests on average once every two seasons.

KICK-OFF TIMES: This can be a problem, but with a global game, time zones etc, will sometimes be troublesome, so I can't really see there is a simple solution.

MATCH RESULTS: OK, we've all lost to much lower quality teams, on more than a few occasions, but that is the nature of sport. Would the game be better if the stronger team always won? I doubt it. It would get boring. And incidentally, I can't remember on too many occasions, a player complaining that they didn't think it fair that they'd beaten a much stronger team, when they shouldn't have.

INJURIES: Now this issue seems a real problem. I have to agree with people who say there are too many, but there again, nobody can know for sure what sort of tackling our opponents are using, and also we can attract injuries ourselves by using the "hard tackling" setting.

STATS/RATINGS: Frankly I can't see any issue with these. Sure, they bare no resemblance to completed matches, but does it REALLY matter? In all the time I've been playing, there is probably only a handful of times that I've even bothered to read them.

NAME CHANGING: Now this is the part that really irritates me. Some people want this facility to be free. Why? The name of a player (or their shirt number), makes no difference to the game play. Changing a name or number is only cosmetic value, and if anyone is sad enough to want to change them, then why shouldn't they pay. I've had a striker and a winger wearing #1 before. So what?

Now for the only real problem I have with the game, ILLEGAL FORMATION. I don't think this should be applicable. If we want to play without a striker, or have just two defenders, that should be our right.

On the whole, I don't think this is a bad game, and for the most part, I am happy with it. Sorry this is a bit long, and I guess I'll just be shot down for my comments, but this is my opinion.

Mate you pretty much think on the same wave length as me for all these topics! My only major gripe is with injuries. There is a part of the season when injuries are higher, man others on here have complained about it too, if they got rid of that I would be quite happy with the game (well happy enough to play it for free.

Also imagine name changing was free? Youd be playing against 'messi' every other ****ing day LOL