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    Yea, that's a problem.
    This guy isn't reliable to give us some clue

    Another let's say ... Myth (?)
    Before a game, the training assistant says that we want one ore two more training to be ready for the next game.
    I have a team, Tigran Rovers (level 2), with a minimum of good players 11+3 (the rest are 2-3*), playing for the three cups.
    Three of them are scout list players and the rest, simple 5* players from the market (forgot, another player recommended). They aren't fast trainers and I don't have many greens to feed them because I also need to replenish condition so I rarely do 1 or 2 light training per day.
    The team is doing great, 1st in league, qualified so far in the cups,with only one loss.
    So, this comment about must have 2 training before every game, looks like a Myth to me (or like "why don't you spend some more greens ?" )

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    Yea, that's a problem.
    This guy isn't reliable to give us some clue

    Another let's say ... Myth (?)
    Before a game, the training assistant says that we want one ore two more training to be ready for the next game.
    I have a team, Tigran Rovers (level 2), with a minimum of good players 11+3 (the rest are 2-3*), playing for the three cups.
    Three of them are scout list players and the rest, simple 5* players from the market (forgot, another player recommended). They aren't fast trainers and I don't have many greens to feed them because I also need to replenish condition so I rarely do 1 or 2 light training per day.
    The team is doing great, 1st in league, qualified so far in the cups,with only one loss.
    So, this comment about must have 2 training before every game, looks like a Myth to me (or like "why don't you spend some more greens ?" )

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    I didn't train today, and won against Spartak FC 3-1. They are still to beat us in 5 outings!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arion View Post
    I didn't train today, and won against Spartak FC 3-1. They are still to beat us in 5 outings!

    #100
    Its looking more like a Chelsea vs Arsenal fixture.

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    I said many times that
    - A match is not set from the program before we play and we can affect the result if watching and making some changes during the game (the same if oppo manager also watching it)

    - At the same time, there is a roll dice in every game so whatever the setting of the two teams is (wrong formations, orders, quality of the players) if we have a bad roll dice (1-2 for us and 6-6 for opponent for example), we 're gonna loose (or not win), no matter what.

    But some times I wonder if there is a roll dice about a pack of two games we have in a KO round of the Cup or CH.L.
    I noticed some times (but rare), that whatever I 'll do, in the first or second leg, I can't get over a team which is worst than mine (or playing with weird formation). I have the feeling that the qualification is predeterminate.
    What do you say ?
    Myth or not ?

    that's a good example
    http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...ryone-cup.html
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    Does the condition really affect the match? This is why I ask you this.

    Now after the new training update, you need 2 sessions of training to "prepare" for the game, but this actually lowers your players condition. But in the homepage the preparation level gets better if your condition is high :P

    This is totally non-sense and the game contraddicts itself!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyltyl View Post
    Does the condition really affect the match? This is why I ask you this.

    Now after the new training update, you need 2 sessions of training to "prepare" for the game, but this actually lowers your players condition. But in the homepage the preparation level gets better if your condition is high

    This is totally non-sense and the game contraddicts itself!
    Just do 2 different warmup sessions, avg 1.5-2% loss in 2 sessions. Prepared. How much will 2% hurt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    But some times I wonder if there is a roll dice about a pack of two games we have in a KO round of the Cup or CH.L.
    I noticed some times (but rare), that whatever I 'll do, in the first or second leg, I can't get over a team which is worst than mine (or playing with weird formation). I have the feeling that the qualification is predeterminate.
    What do you say ?
    Myth or not ?
    I say it's very plausible. Sometimes the outcome of the matchup is logical even if individual games have surprising results. Two examples from this season. I lost the home leg of the cup matchup 1:3. I won the away match 3:2. The game probably meant to send my opponent through, but did it in an extravagant fashion. Fast forward to the CL matchup. I was up against a stronger opponent. Pulled off a 1:1 draw away. Was hopeful for the home leg, played defensively, but lost 0:3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    But some times I wonder if there is a roll dice about a pack of two games we have in a KO round of the Cup or CH.L.
    I noticed some times (but rare), that whatever I 'll do, in the first or second leg, I can't get over a team which is worst than mine (or playing with weird formation). I have the feeling that the qualification is predeterminate.
    What do you say ?
    Myth or not ?
    Indications are there that some matches seemed to be fixed. I have faced situations where it appeared that simply nothing could be done to change the final outcome (that is, win, draw or loss, and which team goes through to the next round). Take into consideration there is still a small possibility of the other team having gone through due to tactics, but I have highly doubt it.
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    Now after the new training update, you need 2 sessions of training to "prepare" for the game,
    as I wrote in #97, I think this recommendation for 2 training before a game, to prepare better the team , it's a Myth (unless it's about to keep the % level of your bonus for the games).
    Condition affects the match but as every other factor of the game, not always and not in the same degree.
    Last edited by nikolgiorgos; 02-28-2016 at 03:31 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    as I wrote in #97, I think this recommendation for 2 training before a game, to prepare better the team right, it's a Myth (unless it's about to keep the % level of your bonus for the games).
    Condition affects the match but as every other factor of the game, not always and not in the same degree.
    I bellive that is exactly the point... filling/regaining the bonus %
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