The new Champions league draw system

[dsio]

My level 5 team was ranked 2nd last season and its CL group stage draw today is against +1 level teams. Is this the same as last year? I had the impression that this was happening only to champs.

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[nikolgiorgos]

no, few seasons ago, the basic rule was the league winner play in a +1 lv CH.L. vs 2nd-3rd-4th league winners.
But as you can see it has changed and now it's more based in ending quality of the team.
Maybe there is an unknown factor of luck or some teams are just "marked" because it's not 100%.

[Javert89]

no, few seasons ago, the basic rule was the league winner play in a +1 lv CH.L. vs 2nd-3rd-4th league winners.
But as you can see it has changed and now it's more based in ending quality of the team.
Maybe there is an unknown factor of luck or some teams are just "marked" because it's not 100%.

The "mark" is given to teams having won a treble in one of the previous seasons

If you haven't still won big/small trebles, you:

- avoid +1L Ch.L. if your quality is not too big (e.g. I have never seen teams ending at 100% not having won a treble inserted in +1L Ch.L.; while teams having previously won a treble are)
- are more protected in the draw (e.g. if you start the season on 105%-110% and not having a treble in one of the previous season, then you never catch monster 130-140% teams; while teams having previously won a treble are) in order to have the chance to treble

So you are protected until you treble After that you start getting monster teams, unreasoned +1 Ch.L. draws ...

[nikolgiorgos]

The "mark" is given to teams having won a treble in one of the previous seasons

I don't think so, if you 've seen the latest post of the manager I 'm following, Sakis won the treble last season and still playing vs a -1 oppo.

I also made a post where show that I dropped q but still I was playing in a +1 lv CH.L.

Still cannot find a solid clue.

[The_Savage_1]

I have won treble last two seasons. Both times had same level CL

[axd23]

I was drawn with same level opponents in CL for a 3rd season in a row and I've been winning the competition for the last 2 seasons.
Has something changed or am I just lucky? I don't know...

[pcmacdaniel]

I was drawn with same level opponents in CL for a 3rd season in a row and I've been winning the competition for the last 2 seasons.
Has something changed or am I just lucky? I don't know...

Hard to say.

It might be based on one's level as well. You're still at a low level, so there are many leagues left. I'm level 33, and the # of league is like 9-12. So lets say, 12 leagues at my level my level, that equals 48 same level teams qualifying for the CL league. They can put 32 teams in the same CL, and have the other 16 play up or down. That could create a problem of not having 32 eligible teams from a range of two levels (+2/-2 level CL to exist at higher levels too, but i'm not their yet), so all teams at one level might be playing in a multi-level champions league.

They could be changing criteria by which teams play up or down to create balanced draws, but multi-level champions leagues becomes a must at some point, due to scarcity of teams.

[axd23]

Hard to say.

It might be based on one's level as well. You're still at a low level, so there are many leagues left. I'm level 33, and the # of league is like 9-12. So lets say, 12 leagues at my level my level, that equals 48 same level teams qualifying for the CL league. They can put 32 teams in the same CL, and have the other 16 play up or down. That could create a problem of not having 32 eligible teams from a range of two levels (+2/-2 level CL to exist at higher levels too, but i'm not their yet), so all teams at one level might be playing in a multi-level champions league.

They could be changing criteria by which teams play up or down to create balanced draws, but multi-level champions leagues becomes a must at some point, due to scarcity of teams.

Maybe.
Although, after winning CL 5 seasons ago at level 3 I was drawn into a +1 level CL. You really can't say what the case is. Just randomness

[stinkybg]

Well i dont kniw but in my group is a treble winner +1 ....

[gamer5289]

@axd23
What was you average quality at the end of last season?

I think you always get drawn in a +1 level CL if you finish the previous season with an average above 120% (7stars)
Have done that for last 5 seasons and each season have been in a +1level CL.
Never won a treble.
One of those seasons I finished 5th, but qualified to CL next season as a winner of the CL.
Still got a +1 level.
This season, just 2 teams in my CL are my level, me and the guy to whom I lost last seasons final
This is on level 17.