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    @ Talisman
    Does this count? 4-5-1 Flat vs 4-3W-2AMC-1
    well, I can see from your pic that there isn't much difference in quality (it's only 10%).
    There is a dif. in b.p. 64-36 but he had more shots.
    That's the most important for me.
    I 'm looking only to that.
    Stopped before a long time , when start having a lot of friends/supporters and the b.p. numbers were distorted.

    13 vs 16 shots with this b.p. ?
    That's weird. Something wrong happened.

    * if it was a trivial question, I would answer that oppo used a couple of players out of position (so got a b.p. penalty) but they performed well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kto View Post
    I think there could be also factors as:
    - grey/white stats
    - SA
    - form
    - how long does the team play together, any special interaction between some players
    - ...
    For those, who still thinks the game is not a coin toss
    True. And like I keep saying, one can't expect guaranteed wins just cause they have a higher rating.

    But, all the factors you mentioned, are largely speculation. I could be wrong, but I'm yet to see any definitive data or player testimony that any of those factors have any influence on the game whatsoever.

    For stats, there doesn't seem to be a concensus whether they matter or its just the overall player rating that is used in the calculations.

    Do SA's work? Again, I haven't seen a practical difference in players with or without SA's.

    Form does play a role, I think. But morale doesn't, as far as I've seen. So there isn't any particular way to turn a player's form around, is there? Or am I missing something?

    And at the end of the day, when talking troll results, it's usually seasoned managers I'm assuming, who have put together tried & tested strategies & strong, fit teams, with a serious game plan to win their respective competitions, who are most affected by such recurring 'off days' I'm betting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kto View Post
    I think there could be also factors as:
    - grey/white stats
    - SA
    - form
    - how long does the team play together, any special interaction between some players
    - ...
    For those, who still thinks the game is not a coin toss
    indeed Kto, those are some factors that make you think but except grey/white stats, all the others were an old issue of the game.
    Now we must focus more
    - if troll results have increased the latest months
    - if there is a weird unbalanced SoT & shots efficiency (or other stats)
    - if the presence of one manager, increases the chance of a troll result.
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    In first 35min , all my 1vs1 shots were off target.
    Oppo scored a penalty and a FK and before 35min score was 0-3
    Push him hard, made it to 2-3 before half time.

    Then oppo played 5-1-4 (no am or st) and I could no score.....

    Despite the oppo's rating were ****... oh yes except his GK.

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    ok, that's one case (and I was there, in that match as supporter).
    Of course oppo manager was there, making subs, had a similar quality team (and 4th league position) but those stats looks broken.
    64-35 b.p. (isn't it too much ?)
    20-12 shots & 9-4 SoT (almost double)
    but 22-75 efficiency ?

    and those rates (for the winner) looks more weird

    Even if the general idea is that was a normal game (the 1st vs the 4th, same q teams, both present) , looking at that picture it seems like a troll result.
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    Isnt higher shot efficiency the ONLY way for a weaker team to make a troll result?
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    no man, we are missunderstanding this really f we go for this way....

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    What is really unrealistic in this game is the players ratings.
    Most of his players especially oppos defenders underperformed.

    My attackers on the other hand had good ratings. The 2 players under 7 rating were subbed and the subs had 7+ rating as well.

    So I can't see how this could be realistic, why I could not score.
    Also when Oppo changed formation into 5-1-4 with no am and no st I expected to win, a kind of penalty for this no attacking formation. He played this way for 40min.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kto View Post
    Isnt higher shot efficiency the ONLY way for a weaker team to make a troll result?
    correct
    but how many times in one season ?
    That is the question of this thread
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    I need a definition, what is a troll result?

    For me... it's also like this one (that's my 5.troll in the last 5 days):
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    -) I'm away, white.
    -) I'm ~70% stronger.
    -) opponent is inactive (injuries or red cards didn't sub)
    -) the only guy who could score, was Costa, a player, who is ~100% better than the average teamquality of my opponent
    -) Costa (AML) has really high key attributes: ~300-350% at shooting, finishing, passing, speed
    --) and 1% gray
    -) My ST and my AMR 230-280% at the same skills, also 1% at gray
    -) opponent player were around 80% (gray skills) to 120% key attribute...
    only on individual stats, what should had destroyed our opponent

    For sure, I won this... but, with my chinese friend at league, it could be that it ends up in a goal race... and he won 5:0 against him (while having only 21 shots, 10 SoT).

    on the other hand... at CL, I won against a ~15% weaker team, active. 1.place at his league, no lose at all... 4:0...

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