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    Quote Originally Posted by minvis80 View Post
    And if more,i know its nothing to do with reality,just game but when everything's predicted and predetermined its annoying.you want to make some impact on game but here you cant.now already high white skills are not making any difference.you dont need to be active to win everything,dont need to train players or change tactics.if nordeus will let you will win.for example team never attended game,no trainings one word not active, winning against active managers, better teams and still going for quadruple.players every season in topscorer,never changed tactics.so where is all importance what everyone talking about.
    This is just false. I'm on a level 55 now. First 30 or so levels I was pretty convinced, that the tactics in this game are mostly cosmetic, but I never thought that the games were predetermined or whatever. You can actually see how the possession bar moves when you do changes in the middle of the game. Okay, that actually doesn't mean anything yet, but when you find those right tactics, you also see results. Not everytime, but most of the time.

    I think most managers who think that the tactics and formations and whatever are just cosmetic, are kind of managers I used be those first 30 levels. My style was to mimic real life football, but then I realised that this isn't real life football. Best results do not come with you creating a permanent formation and real life tactics to go with it. No Sir. You have to adapt your formations and tactics to every opponent.

    That being said, you CAN use mostly same tactics and formations, but that's because most managers use the same formations and tactics all the time. From time to time you meet better managers who make you play the game.

    So first you check your opponent formation and adapt your own to that. For example, I tend to use AMC only if the opponent does not have a DMC. I never use two strikers, because I don't have two strikers, but if I would, I would only use them against single DC. If opponent has strong wings, I put three MC's and attack through middle and so on. You get the picture.

    Then you throw in some kind of tactics to go with that. If the enemy has DMC, I go with short passes. If not, I use mixed. If the enemy has weak wings, attack both flanks. If there is a bad player either flank, attack there.

    Now when the game starts, the possession bar is important indicator how you are doing. I think you should get it somewhere between 65-70% at least to be fairly confident on your victory. If it's not, you should do something. Of course you can win with less possession, but then things tend to be a little more exciting. You can just try different tactics and check if they work. You should be aware though, that some changes might go against you, and when they do, you should change them back immediately.

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    First i thout that tactics works, possession bar shows your advantage,but last two seasons i was checking what is importance.and found nothing.possession means nothing,weather conditions just to make you spend more rests,tactics nothing in not important game made team 14% against 120% and lost 1-0 only with players in wrong positions.already in 20 first minutes you can see where game is going.red cards makes your or opponent team play better,if about dmc stopping amc so its illiusion,no dmc stooped my amc and i always playing strikerless.so its just imagination in your head that you found right tactic or made good change.even your player in defence plays **** it didnt means that you sub him and will be better.most cases a sub is playing almost same rating like one you substituted.same for all positions.its illiusion.and im not newbie in this game.you can see now how after so many complains of loosers that they cant beat tankers or godd trained teams with mutants nordeus adjusted favorites status to 30% for reason not to complain if you lost to **** team.real players knows that activeness or anything else doesn't make any impact on game.all controlled by nordeus but i dont care i know like many of us that money makes most now in this game.now even worth almost nothing to have players with very high white skills,**** trainer from academy can easily overperform him.its okay somtimes when weak team beats strong,but now its happening too much expecialy having all possession,passing,shots on target and still loosing with unreal result.easiest way of winning everything its keeping your team no higher than 110% in season start but if you keep your team 140% or over you will see what will be without spending money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minvis80 View Post
    First i thout that tactics works, possession bar shows your advantage,but last two seasons i was checking what is importance.and found nothing.possession means nothing,weather conditions just to make you spend more rests,tactics nothing in not important game made team 14% against 120% and lost 1-0 only with players in wrong positions.already in 20 first minutes you can see where game is going.red cards makes your or opponent team play better,if about dmc stopping amc so its illiusion,no dmc stooped my amc and i always playing strikerless.so its just imagination in your head that you found right tactic or made good change.even your player in defence plays **** it didnt means that you sub him and will be better.most cases a sub is playing almost same rating like one you substituted.same for all positions.its illiusion.and im not newbie in this game.you can see now how after so many complains of loosers that they cant beat tankers or godd trained teams with mutants nordeus adjusted favorites status to 30% for reason not to complain if you lost to **** team.real players knows that activeness or anything else doesn't make any impact on game.all controlled by nordeus but i dont care i know like many of us that money makes most now in this game.now even worth almost nothing to have players with very high white skills,**** trainer from academy can easily overperform him.its okay somtimes when weak team beats strong,but now its happening too much expecialy having all possession,passing,shots on target and still loosing with unreal result.easiest way of winning everything its keeping your team no higher than 110% in season start but if you keep your team 140% or over you will see what will be without spending money.
    Internal programming, and lists, the game works per lists, and creating scenarios. And as I always say, external skills, impact slightly in the internal programming. So, here you got a point.
    The game needs a system to work, all is about understand a bit the process, because isnt like a random number generator, there is a process, and a reasonw why things happe, and you can impact on all these fields.
    Regarding the 110% you mention, the engine creates leagues based on AvQ, so if you promote with 100%+ you'll be places VS +1 level teams in cup/cl and with the market advantadge for them.
    So its always a point once you know the system, it allow you to play in a quality rank with less problems to overcome your opponents, as the high avqs need a bunch of resources to be catched/overcomed cause the XP gaining reduction when winning quality.

    For any issue, question, guide, you can open a post, share some captures of your team -mainly the team list where to check out goals/assists/motm, and people, me the first, will be glad to reply.

    Cheers.