Season 41

[Morgan O'Bree]

Yeah, it's tough. But the CUP's should be tough and rough, that's why it becomes a relief and joy when you win it (or get 2nd or 3rd)... It's the feeling of satisfaction





I never doubted you for a second, Wonderful!

I d like to see how you'd have fun onto going for the cup vs lv6 teams with respectively Q59.9 (wided between reserves too) and 63. Not fun, granted. Ultimately it all comes down to the server you play, if you re on a new server, and to the cup sort selection if you are on old servers. Any lv20-21 t buyer woulda have had an avg 8* or 9* team facing july. Which might be fun a couple of times, but not every season. In my case, i ll have those two personal trainers tards over and over and over abusing their cc cup for me is not much more than a challenge untill quarters. Just think thet FC Barcelona (alex) has 14 players in squad. Not even a spare keeper. Just a dc/dr/dl one mc and one st. All the rest comes from red packs purchased to keep the top eleven out of injuries.

[Ljepoje]

I d like to see how you'd have fun onto going for the cup vs lv6 teams with respectively Q59.9 (wided between reserves too) and 63. Not fun, granted. Ultimately it all comes down to the server you play, if you re on a new server, and to the cup sort selection if you are on old servers. Any lv20-21 t buyer woulda have had an avg 8* or 9* team facing july. Which might be fun a couple of times, but not every season. In my case, i ll have those two personal trainers tards over and over and over abusing their cc cup for me is not much more than a challenge untill quarters. Just think thet FC Barcelona (alex) has 14 players in squad. Not even a spare keeper. Just a dc/dr/dl one mc and one st. All the rest comes from red packs purchased to keep the top eleven out of injuries.

Huh? Im lvl 6 myself and have been playing against much better opposition despite being on the same lvl or not. The only team's that manage to qualify to the final-eight are T-buyers (players from 6* to 8/9*).

And there are none Q59.9 on my server. Dynamo Swag is Q57,9 and that's the "best" team you can find (probably on lvl 6 as well) The rest of the opposition with 7-8* players in their team (Orchard Utd,FC Köln, Man Utd and myself etc) are all eliminated. Only DS and 7 other teams with 5-6* players are left (which is wierd).




You can't compare players/managers who play on the old resp new servers. The odds and prerequisites aren't the same for all.

[Morgan O'Bree]

Huh? Im lvl 6 myself and have been playing against much better opposition despite being on the same lvl or not. The only team's that manage to qualify to the final-eight are T-buyers (players from 6* to 8/9*).

And there are none Q59.9 on my server. Dynamo Swag is Q57,9 and that's the "best" team you can find (probably on lvl 6 as well) The rest of the opposition with 7-8* players in their team (Orchard Utd,FC Köln, Man Utd and myself etc) are all eliminated. Only DS and 7 other teams with 5-6* players are left (which is wierd).




You can't compare players/managers who play on the old resp new servers. The odds and prerequisites aren't the same for all.

nope mate you got me totally wrong. I was comparing the "having fun" you described with having to have ALWAIS the two regular power-players in your cup every season with capability way beyond the normal players and t buyers, hence having to fight a "already lost" battle at least on charts. Respectively:



where every season over and over (unless you park the bus couple of seasons) you will fight players with a main eleven avg 15Q over the already hugely invested t-buyer teams (like mine, ie, or kaiserslauten).

That's what i meant: until you fight equal opposition or even 4-5Q over you i rekon it's really really fun. Altho when your Q55 t buyer team is up against a Q70 of the same level, EVERY SEASON, is it really fun? Would it be fun for you to fight your way to the cup final four knowing you'll have alwais a 15Q disavantage versus two teams over countless and countless seasons? Your case is different, where the best team apart yours wasn't that far from your quality, as well as the other ones were pretty much on par as well.

That's why i said that for new servers it all come down to luck to either have a real fun cup or just a "win till you can then know you won't go any further". That's a limit to how skilled you can play against 15 Q difference. As matter of fact only a Troll usually makes you through.

As for July, my example was simplier: as i said for old servers, depends on the initial draw. July was sorted with higher levels team which tho had an average of 4*/5* and max 6* players within their ranks, which were 5*,6* and 7* for July. But would a token buyer one or two levels higher than July have a team of about the same amount of tokens spent on training as July, he would have a 10* (hypotetical) team against and i don't know how much fun would be to fight a 130Q team when you are 118 and almost the top of your level.

[Ljepoje]

nope mate you got me totally wrong. I was comparing the "having fun" you described with having to have ALWAIS the two regular power-players in your cup every season with capability way beyond the normal players and t buyers, hence having to fight a "already lost" battle at least on charts. Respectively:



where every season over and over (unless you park the bus couple of seasons) you will fight players with a main eleven avg 15Q over the already hugely invested t-buyer teams (like mine, ie, or kaiserslauten).

That's what i meant: until you fight equal opposition or even 4-5Q over you i rekon it's really really fun. Altho when your Q55 t buyer team is up against a Q70 of the same level, EVERY SEASON, is it really fun? Would it be fun for you to fight your way to the cup final four knowing you'll have alwais a 15Q disavantage versus two teams over countless and countless seasons? Your case is different, where the best team apart yours wasn't that far from your quality, as well as the other ones were pretty much on par as well.

That's why i said that for new servers it all come down to luck to either have a real fun cup or just a "win till you can then know you won't go any further". That's a limit to how skilled you can play against 15 Q difference. As matter of fact only a Troll usually makes you through.

As for July, my example was simplier: as i said for old servers, depends on the initial draw. July was sorted with higher levels team which tho had an average of 4*/5* and max 6* players within their ranks, which were 5*,6* and 7* for July. But would a token buyer one or two levels higher than July have a team of about the same amount of tokens spent on training as July, he would have a 10* (hypotetical) team against and i don't know how much fun would be to fight a 130Q team when you are 118 and almost the top of your level.

I sincerely don't know and it's like I said before, some managers are and will be disadvantaged - one way or another. Some managers on the old servers don't like the CUP and the CUP format, while managers on the new ones do (like myself). Some managers on the new ones don't like the auctions and the fact that they need to spend 20-40T + a couple of millions xtra just to buy a 18 yr old 5* player, while managers on the old servers don't.

This is why I always say - It's all about the server your on and every situation is peculiar and distinctive in it's own way. It's almost "impossible" to say - this is how it is, this is how it works, no matter what. That's also why I try to avoid giving people any advices. I believe every manager need to explore and know how things work on their server or lvl for that matter.

I can only speak for myself and the server I'm playing on. I became a "semi" T-buyer at lvl 4 and on lvl 5 a "pro". Mostly because I realized that I had a pretty good chance to compete with the "best" on equal grounds and prerequisites (even if 70% of the managers are T-buyers). And just looking at the team qualities, I consider myself as the 2nd "best", just behind DS on my server and lvl.