Road to Success - How to Win the Cup

[syakirabilqis]

Wow. Nice Thread. Thanks.

[nikolgiorgos]

At season lv10, after I got the double, my team ended like this - two players were sold and three low q player. The plan was to go for the treble at lv12.



In lv11, I had no hope for a good draw at the Cup, with such a high q team.
Luckily, I made it to the final 4, where the other 3 teams were lv12, with + 7* players but mine had also 6* players and with a good form.
So I played at the final and won



I also won the LEAGUE and the CH.L. , so I won another treble, learning that if you play in a 3lv above Cup, with good quality 6* players then it's not impossible.


But my moto is ,
be prepared, play tactical, get lucky
that's why I continue my preparations for the Cup of season12

[nikolgiorgos]

So, after I won the CH.L. cup and the last game of the league, I started selling my players (earning a lot of money ).




season 11, I also kept 2 academy players 0t, 2 stars, so after selling, Sunday morning, my team was like that


and the Cup draw brought this opponent


welcome

After that of course, I started buying new players, early in morning, also expensive nordgen.
So my team now is like this


with good chances for the Cup, still some difficult opponents for the CH.L. and waiting for the league opponents.
and many hopes

[nikolgiorgos]

End of the season and time for an update. Couldn't make it this time.
In the middle of the season I decided that I need a new challenge after getting 3 trebles so to keep up without giving the gathered sp I had and try to get the the trophies with my 5* team.
Unfortunately, I had a lot of injuries (you see I kept my low q players so I didn't have many players for rotation) and then last week had a situation where my players, one after another were loosing their form.
So, out of the CH.L. in final 8 and out of the Cup, in semi finals (at least a had a safety distance and won my league ).
I lost from that team, which finally got the Cup.




Impressive was the level of that cup after my "under-leveling"


but still the two teams of the final, were also 12lv teams, with some 6* players

[nikolgiorgos]

Here we have a situation without a clear answer.
As I have those low q players, I decided to try last time for the treble.
This is my team now



After selling few players and trying or thinking to sell some more, I see that I have some players whose contract is ending this season.
So, the (unanswered) question is
Do those players are counting for the Cup draw or not
If they count, I 'll have 11-12 players, lv 6* and only 2-3 low q players to drop it.
If the don't count, then I 'll have 6-7 high q players and another 6 low q. The game, anyhow, will give me a couple of free players (3*, over 30 y.o.) to have a complete team to play the game. In other case, I 'll play in a high q Cup.

And this is a similar situation with my alt. team


4 players with contract, 7 high q players without contract and the rest, low q players.
Let's see if we 'll find out something ...

[Buffs Mad]

Afaik, the out of contract (next season) count and I think Becks mentioned this either earlier in this thread or in another.

Otherwise you'd get a 3*, probably same level draw if you had all OOC players.

But I can't say for certain so useful to confirm.

EDIT: Since I do the Cup Q Manipulation Lite, keeping 11 1st team players with Q raised to what ever I like + the 3 Stooges (declining 1* players on the bench) this is how Cup levels have went. (Looks like I have Level 17 this Season.)




The 4 seasons prior to this I finished 3rd, 3rd, 2nd and 1st the main difference being that previously my wins were shocks (Genius) whereas latterly my losses were shocks (Trolls obviously ). >.<

[nikolgiorgos]

I 'm not sure either.
Becks saying that they count, Khris saying not to sign the contracts because cup draw counts the 3* players ...
I asked one nord-dev (two actually, but got 1 answer)

[Buffs Mad]

Well, I think Khris is wrong. I tend to favour the 'draw just before' theory that means they are still in contract.

I'd have expected a screeny of a full OOC team and Cup draw long before now if that was the case. If anyone knows of such then they could add it and we'd know.

But ofc I could be wrong so I might take an alt team and give them all 3 years and see.......

EDIT: I had 1 OOC and my Q was 89 and the few teams I checked ranged fro 88 to 93 so its hard to know with only a few.

[nikolgiorgos]

yeah, I 'm not so patient to check every team ...
Late at night, I 'm checking few teams which had domination scores

[Buffs Mad]

OK, I have an alt team that's 4* average and will tank this Season. 6 currently 4* players will be OOC next Season, 3 will retire and 7 will be in contract. Maybe if I can push them from 47Q (4*) to over 50Q (5*) average for 14 players then 6 'unknowns' will have a significant effect? Not sure if its enough but I'll give it a try.