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thanks for this very great clarification!Quote:
Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
Just a quick question - when you say that the player should get +1 in every drill, sometimes players get 0 plusses in the first training session but if you re-do it they'll get 3-5.
- First , I 'm talking about +1 to position or s.ability, not to skills.
For skills it's about +4 skills average.
It's good to give 3-4 set of drills to observe this avg/
Check also those examples
#436
https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...ainers-44.html
#447
https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...ainers-45.html
I bought a 18 y/o ST/AML of 95% quality. Used 51 rest packs to give him SA and trained him to 99% quality. But after having 6 star quality, he gains just 3 skills for average condition loss of 17%. I used 23 rest packs to increase his quality from 100% to 103%.I used Speed Dribbling + Shooting Technique to power train him.
How many rest packs do we need to power train a FT from 6 star to 7 star quality? Is my ST a Fast Trainer or not?
What training method are you using? I would say that he is not a fast trainer. Using the system on line, I will run 10 goal keepers (6 each time) and then run any of the others once. I expect a to move 10% but that means doing this 20 Times to move up a star. This is too expensive in the long run. I finally found a 19 year old DC who doubled that but again it is expensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryHinter
Hi - thanks for sharing this method.
can i put 5 GK and then the last slow with one other skill to fast train? will that work?
Never tried it.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakiraa
Best drills to train him ?
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You can if the level of GK Training is equal, and you should if it's higher. You shouldn't if it's lower.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakiraa
Read this: https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...tml#post436134
I didn't expect such a question from you, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by k1tb
Alice: Which way should I go?
Cat: That depends on where you are going.
Alice: I don’t know.
Cat: Then it doesn’t matter which way you go.
Hi - thanks for the information. Yes my skill level is the same. I did read the guide but I’m not a good player like you guys I can’t afford so many gk repetition to power train.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxcatl
So I would like to adopt this gk training in a simpler way if this is possible, during each training fill in first 5 slots of gk training and last slot reserved for other training to upskill. All training drill is same level. Will this work well? Thx again
No, it doesn't work and it has no logic doing this .Quote:
Originally Posted by shakiraa
Do you understand the concept of GK Training trick? It doesn't matter if you train with 6x hard drills or 5x GK Training + 1x the same drill if their levels are the same. Therefore, there is no reason to do that, although you can.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakiraa
You don't need to do it many times, that wasn't the point. Read that post again, it has nothing to do with power training.
Just want to repeat that this thread is huge but has many interest postS so it's worthy of reading it specially if you are ambitious player and want to go deeper in the game.
So, saying again about GK training method - you can't save greens from this or improve better a player but it saving time and have better control of the skills you want to add in power-training.
For example, I bought six new players , in two of them I want to give sa and position, two are defenders and two are attackers.
I put all those six together to make some sets of GK drills.
Two players are gaining from this some progress from gaining the sa and position.
Then I take the two defenders and put them one drill of "Press the play" (they gaining the massive relative skills from this) and then the two attackers and put them one "Wing play" drill.
If I wanted to do that with the normal way, I would spend double or triple time.
Another case is if I want to put the skills Speed-Passing-Shooting.
Those are in "Pass, Go and Shoot" drill but this drill is easy and has -1,5 %.
Using many GK sets and put one final drill of above, also saves me from a lot of time.
You can if the level of GK Training is higher than level of the following drill.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
For example, if you have GKT (a hard drill) lvl 4 and Slalom Dribble (another hard drill) lvl 1-3 then doing GKT+SD will give you more XP than SD+SD while Condition loss stays the same -- 3+3=6%.
hmm yes but usually it's not more than one whistle (LV) difference.
i have many teams and taking a quick look, I saw that.
Hi all..
really love this forum and this thread alot, but not so sure when identify a fast trainer, so still need help..
Right now (season 3) stats :
League : Season 1, Season 2
CL : Season 2
Cup : Season 1
2 days ago, i bought recom player with 70+ tokens, cant afford to bought this 119% and q39 player because i need a good DR/MR (plus sa : def wall)
After 1 match in league, he is now 120% and 40q.
With 100+ rest packs left, may i power train this new player (Gerritsen) or any other player?
(Special thanks to nikol, toxcatl, n cedric for replied my last newbie post in this thread)
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You may train him, but he is already pretty strong. I'd invest in other promising players instead (is your DMC Mooney good?). The more stars, the slower training.
IMHO, it's better to have more or less equal players in your team instead of one overpowered superman and a bunch of cripples.
Thanks for your suggestion, toxcatl..
I'll train Mooney instead of Gerritsen that already 7*
Mooney is my new player in this season, and the best DMC atm..
And, think that he is a fast trainer?
Heres Mooney stat :
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I think Mooney is a promising player, since he is still 18, with 3 roles DL DC DMC..
Do I need to give specific SA to Mooney, or just push him to be 6* this season?
Below is my squad overview atm..
Please give me some advice, and fast trainer identification..
And with my squad, what is the better formation to play?
For now, i usually play 413n2..
or 451v 432w1 433 will better?
Thanks
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Sorry for my long post..
And just realize, the position of some players in that pictures was wrong..
With 4132 :
Takahashi (ST) should be my MC
Mierzwa (DL) should be my ST
Bareto (MC) should be my subs
with E.M (S2) should be my DL
Sorry, my bad..
I'm sorry, friend, but you are now asking to play instead of you. Try different approaches, do some experiments, think for yourself.
Don't be afraid to make mistakes, embrace them and learn from them.
Thanks toxcatl.. ill try :)
I would give Mooney "def.wall" or "header" sa but as Tox saying, depending from your management (how many greens you have, how is can you find them - farming/buying).
So you need 50 greens for sa + 70 greens to make him a good 6* player.
Thanks nik..
"Header" is "aerial def" right?
I have 2 def with def wall, so i may try this "header" sa --> Mooney..
About the greens, just from farming (about 20s per day)
Yes, "header" = "aerial def" :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Willyw
I'm always planing to have at least one def. player with aerial defense and one with defensive wall in my main squad.
Noted well, now i have 2 def wall + 1 header..
I'll try my best, try to win the treble this season :)
Many thanks!!!
then you must read that ;)Quote:
I'll try my best, try to win the treble this season
https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...w-win-cup.html
Oh my...
Thats why I found it was harder to compete in Cup, than CL??
with 35tokens and 4* / 5* players,
I must compete with 'hardcore' player ie. BeckStar lol..
Thats so much fun :)
Thanks nik, for sharing nice info/thread..
Now when i realize, i will focus on League n CL much more than Cup lol..
And again, as BeckStar said : Football is all about respect..
Many thanks!!
PS :
Oh yea nik, may i ask : where can i post my squad's condition, to get more opinion from all of you (really helpful manager) since this thread is about fast trainer guide.. sorry
You can create separate thread in this subforum. I'm usually too lazy to get into detailed analysis of others teams, sorry. But maybe someone else will help you.
Noted, thank u toxcatl
you can start also your team show case hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Willyw
https://forum.topeleven.com/team-showcase/
Nik and Beckstar have their teams there.
You don't need to have a full trophy room to start a thread there.
oh ic..
thanks anyway..
Jajajajajajajajajaja I do not know how many times I read your honesty of lax xD!:p:p:pQuote:
Originally Posted by Toxcatl
Dear, I need to advise me I have 216 breaks according to the image of today in the morning, which already rose to 246 with a projection of arriving on Saturday that ends the season with a total of 366.
Your comments regarding ah:
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Practically that is my titular team.
My entire defense plays at age 18 together This is the 3rd season and they are all FT. which has been my Achilles heel this season since they all started at 79% while from MC to ST they started with 100% a decompensation that cost me some games. Then I uploaded them to 99% everyone and the case was matched.
The question is do I get them up to 120%? so that the other season starts at 100% and is practically his last season on the team?
This season I only hire GK who is FT for my team, but I change it every season since it is not a key player !, the season ends 99% and the other I sell it in 4-5 tokens and I win because It always costs me 1 token.
And also hire SHVED and ALBORNO which are also FT the question would also be the dopo to them 2 who have key positions for my DMC and MC team. Aside that Alborno will be the other indisputable titular season instead of VISSCHER who this season is his last of titular. Since the normal thing is that he always played MC and in the photo he appears as AMC.
The last thing would be Dopar to Cristiano, Dnibi and Suchecki who are the backbone of this team since the age of 18 have been and are all FT. (All my equipment is FT). Since the other season I would also be playing the last discounts in the starting lineup but doping it would give me a couple more seasons.
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In the following images you can see players that cost me 01 Token! and the following players AGUILERA, B. NDY, MACHUCA, FRANCO AND STRAHINOVIC who would be my natural replacers of my DL-DR-AML and AMR. then I also handle the option to dope these 04 players.
Young, Barza and Agüero cost me 01 tokens and they were for negotiations but I left the trainings and 2 passed to 80% :( :( but they are FT, so I am going to recover them and sell them xD!
I have several options and that's why I need advice from those who know. All comments will be well received.
no, this isn't the right time to raise your q spending your greens.Quote:
The question is do I get them up to 120%? so that the other season starts at 100% and is practically his last season on the team?
your players are at high quality so earning less.
Next season, with 4* or early 6* , will gain more.
Also it's better not to start with high q for next season's draw.
This also clear my doubt.. thanks nik..Quote:
Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
Last night, i thought to spend my greens for my DMC 'Mooney' (i post it before in this thread), but now i will save the greens for next season.
Question : 'right' time to use the greens is at the 1st day of next season? (Currently i have +350greens)
Questions I have? Does a 19 year old train better than a 20 for example? If so would it not be better to train now instead of waiting? True you might lose a star but the player maintains his skill set, right or wrong? So if skill remains the same train now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Willyw
Do not sell a player only because he turns 22yo. If he perform good or great keep him for many years. On the opposite, if a player FT doesn't perform good or great, sell him. What is the purpose of the game, have the most % players or the best performers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cedric
18-21 yo train the same,after 21 they train slower.Quote:
Originally Posted by texhorn60
