Pros and cons in power training

[nikolgiorgos]

Even for a stiker training "one to one" SA, I am using only defensive drills which are at pro level.

Yes, that's logic because sp going to sa and not quality skills.

Most of the special abilities it's 50 old skill points.
A 5* fast trainer, needs about 60-65 greens to earn them.
With pro or world class lv drills, are you saying it needs less greens ?

[jahrnee]

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[Bunzo]

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Try power training your team

[gizzmo]

Yes, that's logic because sp going to sa and not quality skills.

Most of the special abilities it's 50 old skill points.
A 5* fast trainer, needs about 60-65 greens to earn them.
With pro or world class lv drills, are you saying it needs less greens ?

Nope. Not less green but more efficient in terms of % earned. Which in the end means the same !

[nikolgiorgos]

@nikololgiorgos hw to counter 451v im d underdog

sorry, I didn't see your post but it's not the place for formation advices.
Anyway, if oppo is stronger, with players in form and playing defense/counter, I can see no hope but a very good luck.
I loose from weaker opponents only when I have a bad day and oppo players have a very good one.
If I had to suggest something, that would be the "magic power" of 4-4-2 (everything normal).
* but I 'll not continue that conversation here.

[motrin]

Just did a mini experiment. I got a new guy and started training him for a new position.

I started with the old version and trained him until I got 4 cones (adding it to the new position each time).

I then went to the new training and did the same. I varied the training between pro/semi pro, etc. But always targeted about 15% loss of condition. I did that until he gained 4 in the new position.

For old system, it cost 55% condition to get the gain of 4. In new training, it cost 57% to get 4.

Small sample, but I'd say it's identical. Type of training didn't really matter. It seems that it's the same condition loss. Therefore, the same amount of green packs. Maybe it's different when it's not an SA or position.

I'll try a few more.

[motrin]

Same guy:

Old system 124% condition for 11
New system 141% condition for 11

I was using all random trainings in the new system. So maybe there is something to the level of training. So I focused on only the training level. Note: I only have 2 trainings at pro and I have 0 at world class. I have a bunch at semi pro.

Using only pro level training: 31% for 3
Using only semi pro level: 41% for 3

The position is trained up now. So later I'll see what happens on skills.

[nikolgiorgos]

For old system, it cost 55% condition to get the gain of 4. In new training, it cost 57% to get 4.

I also did that but I got little better with the old system - but at that time, all my drills was in lv1.

Using only pro level training: 31% for 3
Using only semi pro level: 41% for 3

*** That's the key question/answer.

if with higher level drill, we have less condition loss.
I don't think it has to do anything if it's about extra position, sa or quality.
But I suppose that if *** it's true, better to use higher lv drills for extra position and sa
I mean, if we have a defender and want to give him "defensive wall" sa , better use a lv5 attack drill than a lv4 defensive drill.

[nikolgiorgos]

a new player I bought this morning - a fast 18 y.o. nordgen. He is very fast trainer so I decided to give him an extra position (MC) as I have other two AMR.


as the training points going to the position, I just set 5 hard drills lv2 , I had . They are lv 2 (as I 'm not in a higher lv - only 27 and don't have high quality drills).
5 X3,75 = 18,75


I had to set 6 times this training, to earn those 6 points to finish the extra position.


Back to the old system, I set the bar to three and did the practice match (18% condition loss) and my player earned 5 points.
About the same.


I must level up one drill to lv4 to see some better results.

[nikolgiorgos]

I bought a young fast trainer for NIK F.C. and as I want to keep a small roster, I decided to give him also a ST position.
In the last training, he earned the last point for the ST position (it was in drill no2 of the six drills) and with the next drills, he also earned some points for quality.
That's why when we go back to the old version, the blue bar of the player is empty.