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nikolgiorgos Training mini guide and tips... 06-17-2018, 08:19 PM
nikolgiorgos There and back again A story... 06-17-2018, 08:19 PM
nikolgiorgos Let’s start from a basic... 06-17-2018, 08:19 PM
bofrei Hi, interesting test. As long... 07-23-2018, 04:33 PM
nikolgiorgos Let’s see the training for an... 06-17-2018, 08:20 PM
nikolgiorgos Training a defender . This... 06-17-2018, 08:20 PM
nikolgiorgos Is it worthy to train... 06-17-2018, 08:20 PM
nikolgiorgos Let’s see another case, an... 06-17-2018, 08:20 PM
nikolgiorgos Let’s see another case. This... 06-17-2018, 08:52 PM
nikolgiorgos Questions ? 06-17-2018, 09:03 PM
Altiplano Are you still training... 06-23-2018, 08:54 AM
nikolgiorgos Anyway, made a test again 2... 06-23-2018, 11:01 AM
Tahm So in general, u recommend... 06-23-2018, 04:01 AM
jairotf Does this still work?... 05-28-2019, 10:25 AM
nikolgiorgos yes, ok not necessarily grey... 06-23-2018, 07:53 AM
Tahm I think I have already tried... 06-23-2018, 08:05 AM
TropikThunder I think the FT idea doesn't... 06-23-2018, 11:18 PM
nikolgiorgos I gave him less than 35... 06-23-2018, 10:51 AM
nikolgiorgos Exactly @TropikThunder... 06-24-2018, 08:54 AM
Tahm So to conclude, the new... 06-24-2018, 09:15 AM
VFK One upside about the new... 06-24-2018, 01:35 PM
nikolgiorgos That's true. Before the... 06-24-2018, 04:17 PM
texhorn60 As one who trained a lot of... 06-24-2018, 06:04 PM
TropikThunder I'm not sure it costs more... 06-24-2018, 08:02 PM
Der_Ryan_M I'm still working on kind of... 06-24-2018, 02:05 PM
Ποσιδονας Without the GK training for... 06-25-2018, 10:16 AM
nikolgiorgos Read carefully post #3 again.... 07-23-2018, 05:04 PM
bofrei Hi Niko, Thanks for... 07-24-2018, 06:58 AM
Ποσιδονας A 5* 80% academy 14 token... 07-24-2018, 11:43 AM
dragoseu Hello all , I'm new to... 07-24-2018, 12:05 PM
TropikThunder Niko covers this but a short... 07-26-2018, 04:13 AM
dragoseu Thank you very much... 07-26-2018, 10:04 AM
DaLioS Generally the rule is lower... 07-24-2018, 12:41 PM
Franco Gren hello nico just an advise... 07-24-2018, 05:18 PM
nikolgiorgos Ok guys, here a mini guide... 07-24-2018, 07:12 PM
Franco Gren thanks 07-24-2018, 07:53 PM
nikolgiorgos Yes, that's the general rule... 07-24-2018, 07:03 PM
Der_Ryan_M Hi guys, yesterday I created... 07-26-2018, 06:58 AM
EdwinRaw Thanks a lot, dragoseu. You... 08-23-2018, 12:41 PM
dragoseu I really don't know about... 08-23-2018, 01:26 PM
nikolgiorgos All the players of the market... 08-23-2018, 06:37 PM
EdwinRaw Thanks for clarifying that... 08-24-2018, 03:08 AM
EdwinRaw By the way, if I want to... 08-24-2018, 04:04 AM
nikolgiorgos Need same time and greens. I... 08-24-2018, 08:52 AM
Polotoed So if I understand these... 08-30-2018, 02:34 AM
nikolgiorgos Ok, friendlies trick is over... 09-06-2018, 12:33 PM
Rizla Ιt has nothing to do with... 10-31-2018, 08:19 AM
nikolgiorgos A training I did an hour ago,... 11-27-2018, 02:47 PM
Altiplano Give Colovati fast counter... 11-29-2018, 09:05 PM
Rizla Guys i think we must focus on... 11-30-2018, 10:59 AM
Der_Ryan_M He should be. Even if we... 12-02-2018, 03:17 PM
nikolgiorgos First I 'll put here a mini... 11-30-2018, 06:55 PM
nikolgiorgos later ... 11-30-2018, 09:21 PM
Der_Ryan_M Just wanted to share my new... 12-09-2018, 10:35 AM
nikolgiorgos :eek: too many greens.... 12-09-2018, 03:57 PM
Der_Ryan_M Yeah he was a test... On my... 12-09-2018, 04:58 PM
madflo19 I have this player for... 12-09-2018, 04:32 PM
nikolgiorgos that's so true. After the... 12-09-2018, 04:53 PM
Aku Papua 114262 please help me to... 12-11-2018, 11:25 PM
Altiplano If you want him to keep... 12-12-2018, 05:35 AM
nikolgiorgos @Aku Papua I moved your post... 12-12-2018, 02:51 PM
Aku Papua So grey skill matters now... 12-12-2018, 05:56 PM
nikolgiorgos wait for the new TE 2019 and... 12-12-2018, 06:04 PM
Der_Ryan_M You have to find drills,... 12-13-2018, 02:54 PM
nikolgiorgos maybe it's something... 12-15-2018, 02:32 PM
davewootton1964 Training new position 01-30-2019, 09:02 AM
davewootton1964 Hi couldn't wait for an... 01-30-2019, 09:35 AM
iptables Avoid training grey skills.... 01-30-2019, 09:44 AM
nikolgiorgos @davewootton1964 I merged... 01-31-2019, 06:22 AM
iptables Niko, can you pin this topic... 01-31-2019, 09:17 AM
nikolgiorgos You should aim for them but... 02-01-2019, 05:44 PM
iptables Same ( don't know ). Will... 02-02-2019, 10:09 AM
Der_Ryan_M Do player skills still... 02-16-2019, 03:32 PM
nikolgiorgos This season I got a... 02-16-2019, 05:19 PM
nikolgiorgos and here four players I have... 02-16-2019, 05:26 PM
nikolgiorgos I agree. A player with high... 02-16-2019, 05:14 PM
Der_Ryan_M Yeah I agree 100%. Before I... 02-17-2019, 12:01 PM
Der_Ryan_M So just to show what I'm... 02-17-2019, 12:14 PM
nikolgiorgos We know that the devs can... 02-17-2019, 03:15 PM
nikolgiorgos This is an example when the... 04-06-2019, 01:11 PM
Z.Ep. That's why some times we can... 04-07-2019, 05:14 AM
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nikolgiorgos @Sawyer1689 I merged your... 04-23-2019, 03:04 PM
maynel2999 Pls help 04-28-2019, 07:12 AM
tomu741 Just increase their stats. ... 04-29-2019, 02:16 PM
nikolgiorgos yes, the names of the drills... 04-30-2019, 08:15 PM
nikolgiorgos yes, it's the same logic. 05-28-2019, 02:44 PM
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Tactician Nik, going by what you said... 09-12-2019, 05:30 AM
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Rizla 1) In a mix drill white... 09-12-2019, 09:35 AM
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khris Said that, Khris don't like... 09-12-2019, 11:39 AM
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skrrr you have DC with marking 40%... 09-12-2019, 01:51 PM
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    First I 'll put here a mini calendar/review of TE development.
    Back at the end of 2015 the new version of TE has come.
    A jump from flash to unity, necessary for 2D live animations.
    The new version had a different way of training but for the next months we could train out players with any version we would like
    March of 2016
    https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...-training.html
    Almost one year later, April of 2017 I think, the old version gone forever.

    At 2016, we were trying to understand how the new training system was working
    https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...ng-system.html

    Meanwhile at June of 2016 associations started.
    We saw with big surprise that the top100 list was full of Chinese and Vietnamese 8*-9* teams.
    They used vpn to have access in US/UK IPs and farm 70-100 greens every day.
    After that, nordeus reduced the limit of daily farming greens to 50 and little later to 25.

    A characteristic of the new training was that there wasn't a limit of development in individual skills.
    With the old version, there was a limit of 20 quality points in the three categories.
    You could save skill points (the cones) but you couldn't added to Attack for example, if it was +20 qp from defense.

    As we wonder those months what is the role of individual skills (now without the limits), some managers figured out that there was a hole in the system and the game engine favored a lot players with very high white skills and 1% grey skills.
    The new mutants - Cheating or exploit ?
    https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...-cheating.html

    Another characteristic of the asso games was that we could loan players to the other members of our group and the trained them with their greens.
    Soon that worked as exploit because many people created new fake accounts with +150 greens and tokens, trained the players of main account and return them back to mother.
    https://forum.topeleven.com/associat...ber-loans.html
    Many months past before TE decided to remove the loans option.

    The effect of "mutation" in skills was obvious also to mediocre players someone could find.
    https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...layers%3B.html

    Later on, the summer of 2017 we saw the first super mutants, with +1000% in fitness and strength.
    https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...ordeus%5D.html
    The managers were using the GK training trick (where you could train for many times your field player with the GK drill, he earned nothing and later on with a last drill could get a massive amount in 2-3 skills only)

    Few months later, there was a response from TE saying that only there was a limit of 340% for one skill .
    https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...ibute-cap.html

    Then an update for training - not using only one type of drill (April of 2018)
    https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...-training.html

    and finally the end of GK trick as the limit of 180% avg quality
    https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...g-changes.html

    ok, the last one wasn't so accurate
    https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...-november.html
    With the new TE 2018 and some updates later, there was a small but critical change.
    The friendly games now were giving +4% skills in the man of the match (in white areas).
    So another playground for the exploiters who found that about April of 2018.
    https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...w-exploid.html
    A player could be over 180% (200%) and 12 or more hidden stars.
    Also an individual skill could be trained for 400% or more.

    At October of 2018, friendlies stopped giving those skills for motm.

    The thing is that with a permanent tanking, the mutants of 340-1% skills were here to stay (for many more months)
    https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...ed-2020-a.html

    But is there a possibility that the behavior of mutants / semi-mutants- / "well trained" players (with 20%-200% in grey/white skills) have changed by some tweaking in programming ?
    Last edited by nikolgiorgos; 11-30-2018 at 07:58 PM.
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