Understanding role of Luck in top eleven

[nikolgiorgos]

check my post here
http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...hing-else.html

It's not adaptation, it's "chemistry" , if a player "fits" in a team.

[nikolgiorgos]

Ok, let's move this thread a little.
I was saying about "chemistry" of the team.
Some more examples
Here, post #24, example 2
http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...-eleven-3.html
that team had a very successful season (semi of CH.L. , 2nd in his league) playing with this weird formation.
maybe because he found some good chemistry.

- A team full of scout list players, usually doesn't have a good chemistry.

- A team playing from the flanks from a long time, doesn't have the "chemistry" to play from the middle (4-3-3, 4-4-2 ND) in one game.

- If a team has some specific players, has better chemistry playing in attack mod than defense (or the opposite)

- A new player we buy,can change (to + or -) the chemistry of a team

- Some asymmetrical (not balanced ) formations, can have a good "chemistry"

* those above are examples and not a rule or common to see

[nikolgiorgos]

Some times, this "fix" - troll results, has the expression in game where two teams have a big difference in quality.
Even if the manager with the high q team use the right formation, changing things during the game and all the blah, blah, blah
the roll dice is too strong.
Here is a game of our super-moderator here in the forum, PricopCatalin

[nikolgiorgos]

Many times here in the forum we 're talking about "fix" results.
let me explain what I mean by this (a personal opinion).
The game always using a calculation for a game but

- Fix results can happen when a manager-team,whatever does in a game, those actions are multiplay by a roll dice of 1-1, 1-2 while opponent's maybe is a 6-6

- Some other times, the game calculation just ignores some factors.

Here is an experiment I did for a whole season.
http://forum.topeleven.com/%CE%95%CE...ix-result.html
The calculation of the game here, ignores that I made a sub, switching my 5* GK with a 1* ST in about 25% of my games.
If want to explore and understand more the game, you can read it.
it's big but interesting (and it's in Greeks and English too).

Of course we must realize that when we 're watching a "live" game, the calculations already have done from the program and now we 're watching the results of that.
This is a thread I post, from my early levels.
I was biting my nails when the result was already decided
http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...y-day-cup.html

[Dimitri Phome Vegas]

@Nikolgiorgos do you work at nordeus mate?

[nikolgiorgos]

To my credit I changed tactics immediately after conceding, but the obviously the effect was not immediate. In a cup tie I lost 1:2 at home playing defensive and won 0:6 away simply by switching to offensive. I feel like the algorithm might work like this in a continuum

well, sometimes, this "algorithm" can't change during the game, even if you take dramatic decisions or tweak everything.
Sometimes it can.
It's like you 're in a cockpit of a jumbo or airbus, with thousands buttons.
You don't know (or not sure) what exactly every button is doing but you see that the airplane is heading towards a mountain.
So , you just must do something. If the wheel isn't following you, than you just switch on-off buttons.
Some times, you save the plain, sometimes not - LOL

Another important thing I speak for first time it's the instinct.
A player many times have a "feeling", a sixth sense that something is wrong (or something gonna be alright).
Some times I take decisions by my instinct.
Example.
I started this season with NIK F.C. playing vs a weak opo in the Cup.
Much better q team, condition-morale ok, the right formation (facing all his attacker-dangerous player and trying to take the advantage from the flanks).
Watching the game with some supporters, what else ?
Nothing . Started with defense-counter-flanks, in the 2nd half, switched to attack, nothing again.



I had to do something better than this in the second leg.
My instinct said - 'You did all the right things. There is nothing else to do, so why not let your team playing in auto ? "
And that's what I did (even if I 'm saying that the presence of the manager is one of the major things).
But I had to avoid the "mountain", so I open later the game and saw that result - lol

[nash123]

As I wrote in another thread (this season my league is full of (reallife)friends):



First two friedlies against my wife. Both teams were full rested/moraled in both games. Both times it was exacty the same formation/tactic. We didn't use bonusess.
My team was ~120%, her team was ~100%. Both games were exactly the same. If wee just know... this is a computergenerate game, how is it possible to get to different results?

Second were her brother (also ~100%). I lost both friendlies (both full rested/moraled), no tactic/formation change, but we used bonuses. But I won League games clearly. How and why?

There have to be a randomfactor - but how we should manage teams without this frustrating impact?

[talisman]

Of course there's a random factor. Do you think that if you put (for example) Manchester United and Leicester City against each other several times the result would be the same every time?

[nash123]

Of course not, but talk about real life. There you work every day with your team, you see players at trainings. You see the whole game and can concluse what's good, what's, bad. In real life, there aren't in the end of the every season playersells to get better CL- and Cupdraw. If you wanna talk about realisitc, don't talk about t11.

T11 calculates just numbers to create a result. We can't see, what our team does. And if you use livegame... I never would put a ST on the field, who stands alone in front of the GK and passes back to some useless - and that's every game.
If I make a wrong decision, it's okay to lose. But... that's because of a decision and not a random factor.

F.E my squad performs really bad at the moment in CL:
0:1 lost vs 30% weaker team without a manager
0:0 vs 43% weaker team, also without a manager

My team is exactly the same team, which won the triple last seaon (L4 manager, L8 cup). But in League, it performs really good - defeated three reallifefriends (which were on the livegames too), 37:2 on goals. How can my squad beat equal squads "easily" in League, and perform like 3.class amateurs in CL? So pls tell me, how should I go in CL? Should I use same tactic/formation as before? Or change something? Based on what?

[nash123]

Here is the second game against the 43% weaker opponent (1st ended 0:0 - screenshots here)




I changed nothing compared to the first match against him!!!!
Don't you think, this is too strange? Too much random factor?

Tomorrow I play in League vs my wife... I'm really excited about the (random) result.