Understanding role of Luck in top eleven

[nikolgiorgos]

@ funker

....so the answer to your options is simple, first road. goodbye!

ok, we disagree.
Nothing I can do.
Just to play my CL final tomorrow and support 32 friends who have CL/SL finals too


32 of 81 friends, some of them are also my accounts, some friends that are not active anymore, me and Mourinho so it's half of my list

[iansyorkcityfc]

Obviously the wheel of fortune turning,dice throwing backgammon playing troll monster is doing it best to disrupt me trying to win the league,why is then if your 12 points clear with 3 matches to go you never get stupid results,yet be 5 points clear with 2 games to go and you draw and 2nd place gets a chance of title by winning their game,this happens almost every season to everyone not just me
I can well recall being in 5th place one season with 5 games to go having never once been in top 4 all season only to watch all teams above either draw or lose or in the case of team at top not win a single game, gave me with combination of all the results by oppos over the 5 games the title to me
another season 2 sides way better than anyone in league run away leaders all season swapping 1/2 all season having 10 pts lead over 3rd place till yet again game AI decides no its not having that and final 5 games neither won lead dried up over 3 and 4 place teams but the very last game they had to play each other so the season boiled down really just to one game in the whole season for title and you cant say me that wasn't scripted

[nikolgiorgos]

check now what happened to my Cup opponent from previous posts, Dinamo .
He played in the Super League vs an opponent Gabon, with 94% (-30% less q) and lost


Don't know exactly his program but looks that his luck changed this time






Too bad this didn't happen in our Cup final but at least I will have much better chances for the Super Cup tomorrow

[iansyorkcityfc]

check now what happened to my Cup opponent from previous posts, Dinamo .
He played in the Super League vs an opponent Gabon, with 94% (-30% less q) and lost


Don't know exactly his program but looks that his luck changed this time






Too bad this didn't happen in our Cup final but at least I will have much better chances for the Super Cup tomorrow

and look yet again GK lowest ratings

[Grandef]

check now what happened to my Cup opponent from previous posts, Dinamo .
He played in the Super League vs an opponent Gabon, with 94% (-30% less q) and lost


Don't know exactly his program but looks that his luck changed this time



Too bad this didn't happen in our Cup final but at least I will have much better chances for the Super Cup tomorrow

Maybe his mistake was the sub at 68'.

[nikolgiorgos]

Ok, someone could say
wth, is this a managerial game or a slot machine ?

Well yes, the roll dice has a big role in TE. Bigger than we would like to be.
But still we can try to understand and manage in some part also the role of luck.
(Khris also have spot that trying some different method in another thread).

What I could do if for example in my asso game won and have my GK motm ?
hmm, maybe using my sub GK even if he has lower quality
or playing the game in auto/watching from another account I have
or playing a couple of friendlies with PARTIZAN (via associations) so to reset some counter or to confuse the game engine.
(this tip I gave to a friend and it worked in his final).

[Lucian1986]

Ok, someone could say
wth, is this a managerial game or a slot machine ?

Well yes, the roll dice has a big role in TE. Bigger than we would like to be.
But still we can try to understand and manage in some part also the role of luck.
(Khris also have spot that trying some different method in another thread).

What I could do if for example in my asso game won and have my GK motm ?
hmm, maybe using my sub GK even if he has lower quality
or playing the game in auto/watching from another account I have
or playing a couple of friendlies with PARTIZAN (via associations) so to reset some counter or to confuse the game engine.
(this tip I gave to a friend and it worked in his final).

This all sounds like slot machine play to me. Plus, assuming you are able to find a pattern, then it doesn't make the game any less broken, it just means you know ahead of time that your team will be rubbish. How does this make the game fun?

[khris]

This all sounds like slot machine play to me. Plus, assuming you are able to find a pattern, then it doesn't make the game any less broken, it just means you know ahead of time that your team will be rubbish. How does this make the game fun?

The game is fun if you don't watch deeply what creates the illusion. At least for some managers, for me it's fun understand how it works and apply my theories.

The game isn't fixed in a way that gives the win to the team with more AvQ, there are different parameters that makes it realistic, ofc. if you understand how this variability works, then you can manipulate it.

Still many managers that have been playing more than 5 years never asked themselves about the internal programming of Top Eleven, so they still believe that this is based purely on tactics and some logic in the way to manage tactically, but, thats a illusion, once you understand that the game never simulates in a direct 1vs1 way,, but in a individual and spared system.

This is a game and need a system to work, couldn't work with a system in where the direct formations changes give a clear advantadge vs some other formations, as this would create absolutely paranoid matches with 25 formation changes ....the game have parameters and a behavior that after playing for many years and knowing all the updates that the game has launched since the V.1 can be understood.

[nikolgiorgos]

This all sounds like slot machine play to me. Plus, assuming you are able to find a pattern, then it doesn't make the game any less broken, it just means you know ahead of time that your team will be rubbish. How does this make the game fun?

nope, as I said in a previous post, TE is like the backgammon game.
If you want a game with pure tactics, play chess.