How many troll results you had this season ?

[Tactician]

I ve seen many times the expectation, that teams can be predestined to win or not to win. Well, I lost in CL-semis to a similar strong team, so unlucky. One might say, its because I shouldnt win the tripple. But WHY? Why spend ressources to make any algorhytm, which decides about winning besides the normal engine. Maybe I throw everything and quit, if I dont win. Or if I win. Or I dont spend money if I lose, because the game sucks. Or I dont do it, if I win all titles and sort of lose the interest. Who knows it? Or are we already totally mind-controlled?
I just dont see any clear logik.

In my opinion, based on my experience in this game, the game gives hidden advantages to certain teams itself (some as early as at the start of the season) so that those teams have a significant chance to win a particular competition (the competition that the game will be favouring this team). Then, it is all about that favoured team. If that team has the basics (decent squad and formation) and certain minimum requirements, it goes on to win that competition even if there are stronger, active teams in that same competition. Tactics and so on, all seem to fail when you face such a team as the game wants that team to win that competition this season. One of the only way to counter this is to have extremes in quality, that is very large quality advantage, where this advantage overrides the effects of the hidden favours given by the game. On the other hand, if that favoured team don't even have the basics or do not have the minimum requirements, then it won't win that competition, else you would have been seeing lots of weak, abandoned teams with messy formations winning the competitions,

In another way to say this, it is like there is something in the game that sets which team will have a good season, which team will have a good season with respect to what competition, things like that; there is a sort of hidden pluses (+) or minuses (-) already attached to teams from the start of the season itself.

[Kto]

Its a theory, maybe maybe. I guess my defeat in cl-semi is one of those

[nikolgiorgos]

@kenotic

I noticed that my closest rival got trolled in a lot of matches the last week

you cannot be sure about other teams and their manager's action.
I 'm not sure even if my self (if did the right things) - lol

@Tactician

In my opinion, based on my experience in this game, the game gives hidden advantages to certain teams itself (some as early as at the start of the season) so that those teams have a significant chance to win a particular competition (the competition that the game will be favouring this team).

last season I played in the Cup final vs the 2nd of my league.
I couldn't watch the final as it was in a difficult morning working time and lost (my oppo, lower q but good manager was there).
If I could watch that game, I would won him (most possible).

[Tactician]

@Tactician

last season I played in the Cup final vs the 2nd of my league.
I couldn't watch the final as it was in a difficult morning working time and lost (my oppo, lower q but good manager was there).
If I could watch that game, I would won him (most possible).

My point is that there are hidden favours, some set as early as the start of the season itself. It is sort of as follows.

good season or bad season (pluses or minuses attached to your team)

good season or bad season for what competition (pluses or minuses attached to your team, but those are specific for a competition)

Neglecting the quality difference, the budget, things like that, all teams don't start equally and they are not treated the same way throughout the season; there are favours (or hidden advantages and disadvantages). Those favours influence the 'dices' used for individual matches too - sort of the dices themselves are not same; some have more 5s and 6s on the sides and some have more 1s and 2s. For me, it is just part of the simulation in an attempt to simulate things how they happen in real life.

Your team will still have good chances to win if you have a high quality team and use decent tactics. Else, how would those of like Madflo, Nash and even you yourself, and so on won so much? Like you yourself said, quality is among the first things. Then, you for example, you increased your chances more by manipulating your squad.

So, briefly, as a manager, if we want to win, we should do things to increase our chances (things we can control or have an influence on). Then it is all up to the game and what the game wants or what it planned or calculated for the season as a whole, or for a specific competition or for a specific match.

For example, take my case this season. I won the treble with a team I would describe as more on the average side (I had much better team than that in the past, but failed to even win doubles at times). There were strong and even strong, active opponents in the competitions this season, but in the end my team won all 3. I did not manipulate draws nor did I power trained players to 7-stars or above and so on, but I did things as a manager is expected to do to increase my chance to win, and the the rest was up to the game and its plans. I myself, I anticipated that this season the game will favour my team to win some competitions; sometimes, you can already see how the game set things up to favour a particular team. How about those times where my team won singles, doubles and even went close to win a treble (lost a final) when the team was more like abandoned? The team was abandoned, but had the a decent squad and used a decent formation (those are which are among the minimum requirements), but also, there must be some sort of favour as it went on to win competitions like more on its own (no manager, no training, no condition maintenance and so on). This sort of observation is more evident when it comes to competitions like the Cup and the Champions League; the league seem to do active managers and hard work more justice.

[theclubofwins]

i had a troll result against the last placed team in my league level 5, i ended up drawing the match with a score of 1-1 for each team

[khris]

Now thinking in troll results... came to my mind the FA round of yesterday... all teams of better AvQ and loosing by 9 points the 1st round (13-4¿? if I remember)... then who lost 3-0 won 5-0 at home so... really... I miss a sense in the simulations, a stability and more sense in some aspects.

[nash123]

I had a few games, I had to have a bigger win, but... okay.
The only troll/fixed game is this:



It was a game against DNAG, who was ~5% weaker - he didn't attent. I started easy tackling. It seemed to me, this game is fixed... I mean, 1 red card with easy tackling and 2:0 down after 8min?

I know what I did/changed... but I bet, I never would do such a comeback.
And the "funny" part at the end: after 2:3 I turned off counter (animation of 2:4 started before I hit the save button), and conceeded at 89' a goal from counter...
But the question in this case:
Did I troll the engine?

[KenoticFC]

There was a time when not attending and training your team had a consequence, you can't deny that. I had the same rival for the first 5 seasons playing TE. While I managed to win the leagues every direct match was exciting and hard since we both had very similar teams. In the 5th season he won the 1st game 1-0, then he stopped playing ,the returning match I won 7-1 (despite he had a great team the fact that he stopped taking care made him lose with this results). As far as I'm concerned these artificially strong abandoned teams are a relatively new addition to the game, an addition that makes no sense.

[KenoticFC]

I wanted at least one week to pass without me complaining about trolls. But yesterday I got one against an 80% abandoned team (same happened last season in the first league match), match ended 0-0. I know some might find this silly but I could tell that I was not gonna win. Players had all great ratings but every shot went in the stratosphere. I changed formation changed the striker who was the only one not performing that well. Match still the same, I just could tell nothing was gonna happen, last 10 min I said screw it, Hard attacking arrows up on all players. Match report clean only my 3 subs and of course drawing was a surprise crap.

[Cloverfield]

I was trying to lose to get in super league as a third...
And this happens....

SORRY BUT WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?