How many troll results you had this season ?

[Der_Ryan_M]

White skills are still very important. Look at some of the people on my friend list and their star players. These 2 teams are still top in their leagues, arent the highest rated and do not attend their matches. The player you see is their best. The rest of their teams are much lower in overall quality but still good white skills with 1 percent greys

The Mongolian team Huma is exceptional, he has been upset some 100 percent players with a 50 plus percent quality. So white skills still work. For some at least

I believe you are getting trolled and it is becoming more common

The vietnamese is 100% manipulating draws. I could post a picture of my second team here and say the same.
The other one not sure. But I doubt his opponents are active. Also these pics are from lower leagues, there are many semi active managers. With 10% bonuses and all other stuff you can maybe win the league there quite easily, if you are not in top draw league.

[EastsiderSG]

The vietnamese is 100% manipulating draws. I could post a picture of my second team here and say the same.
The other one not sure. But I doubt his opponents are active. Also these pics are from lower leagues, there are many semi active managers. With 10% bonuses and all other stuff you can maybe win the league there quite easily, if you are not in top draw league.

I fear with the individual white skill factor now removed

I agree draws have been manipulated. Does that mean you also agree that the individual white skill factor is removed? I just wanted to show him it still works. And i seriously didnt know white skills are useless at high levels

[Der_Ryan_M]

I agree draws have been manipulated. Does that mean you also agree that the individual white skill factor is removed?

More or less, yeah. Still a bit of an influence in association matches. Apart from that, I just don't see it anymore. Same with overall % to be honest. You are maybe more likely to win more games if you have that, but I just don't see a pattern, like previously with high white skills, where you won the majority of your games.
The only thing that could have a big influence in TE 2019 (next to bonuses) is tactics. Hard to tell, because you don't know the opponents tactics. Everything else seems to be random at this moment in time, which is a big letdown for me personally and many other dedicated players.

[EastsiderSG]

More or less, yeah. Still a bit of an influence in association matches. Apart from that, I just don't see it anymore. Same with overall % to be honest. You are maybe more likely to win more games if you have that, but I just don't see a pattern, like previously with high white skills, where you won the majority of your games.
The only thing that could have a big influence in TE 2019 (next to bonuses) is tactics. Hard to tell, because you don't know the opponents tactics. Everything else seems to be random at this moment in time, which is a big letdown for me personally and many other dedicated players.

Good to know! but it still works wonders here at lower levels. My opinion on it that is

[EastsiderSG]

Anyway, it doesn’t sound like it’s a standard among all leagues, players and servers. No logical explanation when the troll strikes and it seems like it is hitting you guys hard. If I feel something isn’t right or I experience something like you guys are going through now. I think I rather tank.

[Blast]

I think this troll element (new heights this season) along with other elements of the game have taken the fun out of it.
Now no matter what you do, how hard you train, whether you watch or not, moral not important, fitness not important, whether a player is in wrong position not important, quality of team irrelevant, preparation % irrelevant, team set up ....you may as well pick a random 11 players.
We need to feel, sorry know, that as a manager our decisions/gameplay have effected the outcome of game.
Otherwise what the hell are we doing?
I have had lots of association managers and friends give up on this game and stop playing.
Just look how many people are saying the same thing.
That is what this troll engine is doing...making players stop playing!
That means no money. That means in a few years.."oh do you remember that football game, what was it called....? oh yeah top eleven..what ever happened to it?"

So the designers, programmers or whatever they call themselves need to wake up and listen before it's too late. Before this game is consigned to the waste bin.

[Seeker85]

This result from the other day was more than silly. He was 90% with very average players individually (no high whites at all). I played defensive counter. Apparently their counters were a constant problem for us and they had 6 on target and scored 5 to my 10 on target and 1 goal. Haha...



Here’s my better players, who are head and shoulders above anyone in the league, yet I’m 6th, with 4 trill results out of 9. Yet to play the league leader who is 119%, with pretty much scout players who have been trained up slightly to have whites at 140%.

the team above, bottom of my CL group are 2nd in the league and very average.


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[EastsiderSG]

Mate, I went into your association and had a look. Yup, I would be screaming white skills don’t mean sh it as well. You put a lot of effort into the team, it’s very obvious. Sorry man, didn’t know better. It’s fked up

So out of curiousity I went to check anyone above level 45 on my list and how they were doing in their respective leagues. I only have 7 in my list above 45 so it wasn’t difficult. Everyone won at least 1 trophy last season but the focus is on league so 5 out of 7 won their leagues last season. Today their current league positions, 5 in 7 are leading their leagues again, 3 of which are the same who won last season and the other 2 different. The other 2 people Not topping their leagues are not doing badly as well. 1 is 2nd and the other 3rd. I think my server hasn’t been affected.

Ok, last time I am adding on. I went into their teams to scrutinise expecting to see some well trained players. All were scouts, the lowest grey skill I found was 34 and he was the odd old guy in 1 team. Majority had greys in their 80s to 120s. You might be right about the white skills at higher levels

[Seeker85]

Mate, I went into your association and had a look. Yup, I would be screaming white skills don’t mean sh it as well. You put a lot of effort into the team, it’s very obvious. Sorry man, didn’t know better. It’s fked up

So out of curiousity I went to check anyone above level 45 on my list and how they were doing in their respective leagues. I only have 7 in my list above 45 so it wasn’t difficult. Everyone won at least 1 trophy last season but the focus is on league so 5 out of 7 won their leagues last season. Today their current league positions, 5 in 7 are leading their leagues again, 3 of which are the same who won last season and the other 2 different. The other 2 people Not topping their leagues are not doing badly as well. 1 is 2nd and the other 3rd. I think my server hasn’t been affected.

Ok, last time I am adding on. I went into their teams to scrutinise expecting to see some well trained players. All were scouts, the lowest grey skill I found was 34 and he was the odd old guy in 1 team. Majority had greys in their 80s to 120s. You might be right about the white skills at higher levels

This is what I feared. Seems Nordeus are promoting their expensive scout players for best performance, whilst opening up the competition so players with intrinsically trained players, you’ve had from 18, are no longer as good and anyone can win a league. Last season, I was unaffected until maybe the last week, I had a couple of suspect results, but I’d already wrapped up the league long ago. My worry, is that I lost and only drew to a very average team like we’v talked about in association too, but had no problems in the semi final day.


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[Der_Ryan_M]

This is what I feared. Seems Nordeus are promoting their expensive scout players for best performance, whilst opening up the competition so players with intrinsically trained players, you’ve had from 18, are no longer as good and anyone can win a league. Last season, I was unaffected until maybe the last week, I had a couple of suspect results, but I’d already wrapped up the league long ago. My worry, is that I lost and only drew to a very average team like we’v talked about in association too, but had no problems in the semi final day.

I have a similar team like you, I lose against untrained weaker opposition a lot... I think skills are dead now.