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    We were genuinely happy to tell you all that we're launching the next Challenge.
    well Jeeves, as Ποσιδόνας (Posidonas) said, here most of us are dinosaurs of old T11 version.
    Not much impressed from challenges like those new ones.
    Is there any bigger challenge at the end of the season, to see the season's review of your team and see you victories or winning strike ?
    Or that your star player scored 70-80 goals , assists, most goals in one game and more ?

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    It's like we were customers of a great shop which was selling amazing jerseys and now this shop is selling mostly shoes - lol
    So why are we still here ?
    Because it was a fantastic shop, we love being here, those few jerseys we still can find here are from the best of the market and we hope that maybe some day we 'll find the place we loved once.

    But we 're not here to buy shoes - lol
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    You might recall that I was a bit more active before.
    So was I, but it gets harder to listen to the negativity, and harder to defend or wait for Nordeus.
    You say new items will hit the game "when ready, no matter what"
    And I say too many of these ideas and items are not roll out ready, and that has been the expectation for too long, I've lost faith.
    Nordeus breaks things and gives us a replacement before the glue is set. These are the best challenges you can invent? The visuals of the new market and squad pages, those were as polished as they should have been before dropping them on us? The vast changes since v5.6, the lack of replacement for legacy features like history, it was the course you decided was best?

    I really think I can't do it anymore, support this game. A year ago I was upset that Tactician was sharing negative comments, telling people to quit; all year, the forum had that same noise at times. I don't want to be such a negative voice, because I know, really, that new users can enjoy this game like I have. That the design goals are meant for "other" players, not me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeManiaque View Post
    So was I, but it gets harder to listen to the negativity, and harder to defend or wait for Nordeus.
    You say new items will hit the game "when ready, no matter what"
    And I say too many of these ideas and items are not roll out ready, and that has been the expectation for too long, I've lost faith.
    Nordeus breaks things and gives us a replacement before the glue is set. These are the best challenges you can invent? The visuals of the new market and squad pages, those were as polished as they should have been before dropping them on us? The vast changes since v5.6, the lack of replacement for legacy features like history, it was the course you decided was best?

    I really think I can't do it anymore, support this game. A year ago I was upset that Tactician was sharing negative comments, telling people to quit; all year, the forum had that same noise at times. I don't want to be such a negative voice, because I know, really, that new users can enjoy this game like I have. That the design goals are meant for "other" players, not me.
    I posted things with good reasons, and I did not directly tell people to quit; I told them to make tests and see themselves how much they have been deceived. It is a bit like what Nik said, except that for me it is not the case of the history and so on; I was used to something that I liked, where the game had more sense in terms of football, tactics, action and reaction, but then they changed it (and that too they hid it, that is they did not inform us about that change) in such a way that the game became numb. The game became more and more illusive, and it even got worst with those additional deceiving things and cosmetics that have been added in the game. Many people now have suspected that at least some matches were played before actually shown to be played, that is those matches are on playback, where almost whatever you will be doing on the bench or side of the pitch as a manager would have no expected effects as outcomes. Some people have also noticed the abnormal strength of abandoned teams or teams with no manager on the bench. You can see yourself the amount of complaints on the forum. They changed many parts of the game; maybe they thought people would not find out. At a time, this game, despite its flaws, had some sense, and people were having fun. It just got worst and worst, but I am not complaining like I was before because I take such things less seriously now. I try to enjoy the game as it is and also report about things when I notice them.

    Concerning communication, collecting information and so on (between the forum users and Nordeus people), it was way worst in the past. At a time there was nearly no one from Nordeus to check the forums regularly. On rare occasions, an admin was checking but was not doing much in terms of collecting info and so on. With time that changed, and it got even better when Moi was around. About those that are here these days (Jeeves and so on), I cannot complain about them nor I would say things to offend them. But sure there are a lot things that need to improve in this game; some things were even better the way they were before. For me, the best version of the game was around May-July 2016, where they made tweaks to the newly introduced version whereby the game become more responsive, but there was a flaw whereby there was over-response and even inappropriate response (for example, clicking the wrong bonus resulted in instant penalties like goals conceded), but at least the game was not numb.
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