Is the Tactical Part of Top Eleven 2019 Broken?

[Ludo_Mansio]

If you turn off 2D animation, then you shall have more (only) comments. If that is what you want.

I agree, it's the animations that are misleading. There seem to be a series of pre-scripted animations (we've all seen the same goal over and over again) and the game just picks the ones it thinks are most appropriate. So I don't think you can tell anything about how you're team is playing or what their positions are from the animations... for me it's just; did I score, did they score, who is having possession, that's all you can tell from the animations. The text is probably a little more informative as you can get a better idea of which players are making mistakes etc.

I also agree with Khris that this isn't a game where we can genuinely influence the tactics. We can turn toggles on and off to try and affect the outcome of the game, but they're all just factors that go in to the roll of the dice. I'd like to think that the game continues to calculate the chances of goals etc as a match is played (i.e. we can actually influence the outcome during a match) but I don't think we have any evidence of that, and in reality it's just as likely that the calculation is done before the match starts and whatever we do during a match has no effect.

[NUNO FC]

From my experience i would say we can influence the result during a match, but the thing is as all in life, our intention may be the best and theoretcly work but luck plays an inportant role!

[Reece p FC]

From my experience i would say we can influence the result during a match, but the thing is as all in life, our intention may be the best and theoretcly work but luck plays an inportant role!

you also dont know what changes your opponent is making at the same time, assuming they are present, its when they arent present that i get frustrated with it, i've had it where my team is 2-0 up at the hour mark and without me changing anything and my oppo not present suddenly i lose 3-2, wtf?

[Tactician]

Another example. I started the match today with mixed passing, and the passing seemed mixed but with more highlights showing long passes. Later I changed to long, and nothing much changed. I changed to short passing and nothing much changed neither, and the highlights kept showing players passing long. Does the engine consider the certain settings set before the match only or what? The only things that seem to have effect is making substitutions and the change in whole team mentality. Ah, also some parts of the animations are clearly broken because one player made at least 1 assist (I think two), including showing his playmaker icon, but then no assists were added in his statistics profile.

[Grandef]

Ah, also some parts of the animations are clearly broken because one player made at least 1 assist (I think two), including showing his playmaker icon, but then no assists were added in his statistics profile.

Evidently, I have a lot of examples. 1, Player get yellow card at corner. 2, Penalty SA is swap between GKs (my GK doesn't have it, oppos GK has it, animation shows my GK has it, oppos GK doesn't have it). 3, Player get 2 yellow cards (red) but still on the field, actually another player get yellow. 4, Animation and text comments are totally out of sync.

[NUNO FC]

Evidently, I have a lot of examples. 1, Player get yellow card at corner. 2, Penalty SA is swap between GKs (my GK doesn't have it, oppos GK has it, animation shows my GK has it, oppos GK doesn't have it). 3, Player get 2 yellow cards (red) but still on the field, actually another player get yellow. 4, Animation and text comments are totally out of sync.

All bugs that last to be fixed, i've already opnedned a thread for the corners in the bug section

[Tactician]

Again today... I did not feel that I was influencing any part besides making substitutions. My team scored, they continued to score, but I did not feel that I was in any part of it. I see parts where I could improve, I make changes, no response at all; the team plays as if I was not the manager. I do not feel any connection. I feel that some things are either disabled or broken in this game.

[TheWhiteKirby]

I still believe there's a tactical element to it. I had to maneuver some round-robin wins against higher rated opponents in the past couple of seasons and if I wasn't there to change the tempo, to change the player, to change the set-piece taker, to change the mentality and formation- we would have lost like it suggested on paper. But, because I was there, I was able to edge out the result needed to advance which probably made the cocky manager who assumed he was favorite and didn't attend pissed off. But I think that, since this update, it just recently began feeling this way. Last update, it felt scripted like I would put in a new player for a player rated 5.3 and it was like it didn't matter and within seconds the sub would go from 6.5 to 5.3 as well....

[talisman]

Sometimes I get the feeling that the game engine has decided what the optimum formation, tactics and orders are the 'best' for you for that match and you have to guess what they are - once you have found them you get a really good performance and result.

For instance, recently in a match I was much better Quality than the opponent, but they were leading 2-0 and I was in for a right old Trolling. I noticed that the two opposition wide defenders had high match ratings, so switched to attacking through the centre exclusively, instead of mixed - into a 3DC-DMC central defence, which in normal circumstances was a complete no-no. I won 4-2...

[Tactician]

Sometimes I get the feeling that the game engine has decided what the optimum formation, tactics and orders are the 'best' for you for that match and you have to guess what they are - once you have found them you get a really good performance and result.

For instance, recently in a match I was much better Quality than the opponent, but they were leading 2-0 and I was in for a right old Trolling. I noticed that the two opposition wide defenders had high match ratings, so switched to attacking through the centre exclusively, instead of mixed - into a 3DC-DMC central defence, which in normal circumstances was a complete no-no. I won 4-2...

So, it could be that whatever were selected to be the optimal orders were random rather than based on the opponent, that is, the engine just choose randomly what will be the best orders rather than logical.