Pros and cons in power training

[nikolgiorgos]

I 've done some measures and it's about the same.
But I don't know if having some drills world class (with the world sphere) if can save little more.

[Craig Gareppo]

Hi,

I keep seeing the term norgen player. What is that??

[nikolgiorgos]

I keep seeing the term norgen player. What is that??

read this
http://forum.topeleven.com/tutorials...-chris-18.html

[Craig Gareppo]

Thanks for that

[Daniel Linter]

How can we determine if a player is a fast trainer or not?
I spent now 660% condition on a player with a high TR, but he went up from 79% to 88%, is this good or bad?

[Medo zalata]

How can we determine if a player is a fast trainer or not?
I spent now 660% condition on a player with a high TR, but he went up from 79% to 88%, is this good or bad?

A fast trainer:
1. Young player 18-21(22) yo.
2. Very expensive (very very expensive )
3. In the old version: train him 3 bars practice match and he will improve by +80
4. In the new version: (not very sure) train him 6 drills fast counter attacks or press the play and he will improve about 4-5% attributes or 1-2 in special ability/position every training.

[nash123]

A fast trainer:
...
4. In the new version: (not very sure) train him 6 drills fast counter attacks or press the play and he will improve about 4-5% attributes or 1-2 in special ability/position every training.

I also think, it depends on the level of the drill and the mixery of drills. I think (on my own experience), it's better to use: Fast Counter, Pressing, Sprint, Gym, Wing Play and Slalom.


But... with the new Version/Training: Do we really need Fast-Trainers?

I have some FT (old version, they gain ~110% at practice match) and nonFT (old version, they gain ~30-40% at p.m.). From the beginning of this season, I only use new Version. They all increase their skills pretty equal.
F.E. my Striker is a FT, increases to 123% (from 101% at season start - 20 y.o.), AML isn't (wasn't) a FT, is now 114% (from 89% - 22 y.o.).
Right MC is a FT, startet at 99%, is now 125% - 20 y.o. Left MC isn't a FT, starts at 96%, now he is 121% - 19 y.o.

I only used two seasons ago the old version at the beginning to learn them SA/Positions, that's why Trainingslevel is 56, three Worldclass-Drills.

[nikolgiorgos]

maybe you have a point here but it's the high level of the drills you have.

Trainingslevel is 56

wow

[nash123]

Maybe... I'm really interested, how long (age) it works like this.
But it's not only the drill, also the match. AML (22 y.o., no FT) gains around 4%-6% vs weaker opponents. In cup he always gains 6-10%. Also my wife had an worldclass AMC (25 y.o. also, no FT), who gains nice (from 87% to 111%). At old version, he only gains ~25% per p.m.

I started few days after new Version, so I didn't know, there was an old version. Few games before season ending I searched on the internet, how much time between old and new season is. So I "found" this forum, read some thread and formed my squad. Used old version to check out, if it's a fast trainer. If it was, I learned them what I needed and was on with new version because of the bonus.

But sometimes, I made incredible stupid trainingsessions, f.e. Had a game vs 2nd on League (2 points behind me), made a hard session and had no green packs. The squad was around 40% condition and I lost 0:2.
Second game I won, so I won League one point ahead. ^^

If I win the league days before season ending, I doesn't matter on condition and just push trainingslevel.


PS: A full squad helps to push it.

[nikolgiorgos]

be careful , an exhausted player is more vulnerable to injuries too