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nikolgiorgos Pros and cons in power... 03-10-2016, 08:42 PM
Arion I do the 4 training as... 03-11-2016, 04:58 AM
Bunzo Im sticking with the old... 03-11-2016, 12:40 PM
nikolgiorgos gain more to what ? ... 03-11-2016, 01:05 PM
Arion Training points, used to gain... 03-16-2016, 01:07 PM
Matteo de Clemente Hi, I think the... 03-16-2016, 02:28 PM
skrrr I've power trained a few... 03-16-2016, 02:53 PM
nikolgiorgos Are you sure about that ? ... 03-16-2016, 03:11 PM
skrrr Well, I haven't done any... 03-16-2016, 05:15 PM
gizzmo Yeah, definitely. Going to... 03-16-2016, 06:09 PM
nikolgiorgos Yes, that's logic because sp... 03-16-2016, 06:38 PM
gizzmo Nope. Not less green but more... 03-22-2016, 11:44 AM
jahrnee @nikololgiorgos hw to counter... 03-21-2016, 04:38 PM
Bunzo Try power training your team ... 03-21-2016, 05:11 PM
nikolgiorgos sorry, I didn't see your post... 03-23-2016, 03:08 PM
motrin Just did a mini experiment. I... 03-25-2016, 03:08 PM
motrin Same guy: Old system 124%... 03-25-2016, 03:41 PM
nikolgiorgos I also did that but I got... 03-25-2016, 05:07 PM
nikolgiorgos a new player I bought this... 04-07-2016, 04:15 PM
nikolgiorgos I bought a young fast trainer... 04-08-2016, 04:22 PM
nikolgiorgos I set few fast trainers in... 05-05-2016, 08:51 PM
Andrew Nifield Maybe it goes down if you do... 05-05-2016, 11:50 PM
Bunzo No 50-70 green packs should... 05-06-2016, 08:55 AM
Duncton I think your players... 05-06-2016, 08:13 AM
nikolgiorgos yeah, probably that happened.... 05-06-2016, 05:12 PM
Duncton Yes, if you care about the... 05-06-2016, 06:33 PM
nikolgiorgos forgot to say also about the... 05-06-2016, 06:52 PM
Andrew Nifield I still have 6 at level 50, I... 05-07-2016, 04:42 AM
nikolgiorgos This season I found two... 05-07-2016, 07:55 AM
Medo zalata No in new version maybe less... 05-07-2016, 12:12 PM
nikolgiorgos I 've done some measures and... 05-07-2016, 12:59 PM
Craig Gareppo Hi, I keep seeing the... 05-10-2016, 11:41 AM
nikolgiorgos read this... 05-11-2016, 08:36 PM
Craig Gareppo Thanks for that 05-12-2016, 01:28 PM
Daniel Linter How can we determine if a... 05-14-2016, 01:49 PM
Medo zalata A fast trainer: 1. Young... 05-14-2016, 04:50 PM
nash123 I also think, it depends on... 05-20-2016, 12:10 PM
nikolgiorgos maybe you have a point here... 05-20-2016, 02:11 PM
nash123 Maybe... I'm really... 05-20-2016, 03:45 PM
nikolgiorgos be careful , an exhausted... 05-20-2016, 03:59 PM
nash123 I know, but I don't care,... 05-20-2016, 09:30 PM
HoofDaddy Fully rested with packs, or... 05-21-2016, 05:59 PM
nikolgiorgos indeed and maybe that's... 05-21-2016, 06:30 PM
nash123 Maybe... but why it happen... 05-22-2016, 04:37 PM
Tactician It is very likely that this... 05-23-2016, 06:06 AM
Ibrahim Bavari My players crawl cause I... 05-22-2016, 07:11 PM
nikolgiorgos You have a point here. This... 05-24-2016, 07:11 PM
nash123 I didn't make a screenshot at... 05-25-2016, 02:26 PM
Al Svanberg Hi guys! Thanks for a... 07-04-2016, 01:48 PM
nikolgiorgos it's the training in the new... 07-04-2016, 04:33 PM
Al Svanberg Thanks so much nikolgiorgos,... 07-04-2016, 04:55 PM
nikolgiorgos btw, the best investment for... 07-04-2016, 04:58 PM
nash123 I made some tests today,... 07-12-2016, 01:18 PM
nikolgiorgos probably you're right I 'll... 07-12-2016, 08:16 PM
babarkhurshid I have a fast trainer with... 07-14-2016, 08:56 AM
babarkhurshid Can I train only one player... 07-14-2016, 08:50 AM
nash123 Look at his keyattributes.... 07-14-2016, 09:32 AM
nikolgiorgos hey nash, it would be... 07-14-2016, 03:23 PM
nash123 I can't tell it exactly,... 07-15-2016, 08:49 PM
nikolgiorgos ok, as i managed finally to... 07-16-2016, 08:33 PM
nash123 Nik, nice first try. :) I... 07-17-2016, 11:06 AM
nikolgiorgos The main question isn't "how... 07-19-2016, 05:40 PM
nash123 Sry for the late post, but I... 08-01-2016, 09:32 PM
Al Svanberg Nash, great stuff! BTW, is... 08-02-2016, 02:21 PM
nash123 Ahm... I think, condition... 08-02-2016, 07:53 PM
Al Svanberg Nash- Thanks! Darn, this... 08-02-2016, 09:21 PM
nikolgiorgos Those are "rules" from the... 08-03-2016, 07:53 PM
nash123 Here's something interesting... 08-08-2016, 07:52 AM
Al Svanberg Nash- This is an update by... 08-08-2016, 08:30 AM
nash123 That's right. I just want to... 08-08-2016, 12:02 PM
skrrr Isn't this 4% thing old news?... 08-09-2016, 08:31 AM
nikolgiorgos Yes, that's true (and old). ... 08-09-2016, 08:57 PM
nash123 You know, 128% is 7* player?... 08-11-2016, 07:31 AM
nikolgiorgos of course not haha * only... 08-11-2016, 07:49 PM
Al Svanberg Three questions: (i) I... 08-12-2016, 02:12 PM
nash123 If you want to train SA or... 08-13-2016, 10:14 PM
Al Svanberg Nash- Big thanks! I am... 08-14-2016, 04:29 PM
nash123 What quality are your player?... 08-14-2016, 04:49 PM
Al Svanberg I just missed another game... 08-17-2016, 11:59 AM
nash123 Only if you miss a game. I... 08-24-2016, 03:05 PM
Al Svanberg Yeah exactly. I've started... 08-24-2016, 08:55 PM
Al Svanberg A little update, I tried to... 09-15-2016, 04:57 PM
Al Svanberg Guys, do you know if a "3... 09-05-2016, 06:37 AM
nash123 No, it's the same, no... 09-05-2016, 03:18 PM
nikolgiorgos as I wrote in a "chapter" of... 09-05-2016, 04:43 PM
Nudo74 Niko/Al, I've been looking... 09-17-2016, 03:30 PM
LeManiaque ^^ That's what this thread... 09-17-2016, 04:30 PM
nikolgiorgos more or less it's the resume... 09-17-2016, 04:41 PM
Nudo74 I guess I just don't... 09-17-2016, 07:14 PM
LeManiaque There is basically nothing... 09-17-2016, 08:39 PM
nikolgiorgos power training is what we... 09-17-2016, 09:04 PM
Nudo74 Thanks guys! Sent from... 09-17-2016, 11:35 PM
nikolgiorgos Today I found the first... 09-21-2016, 08:29 PM
Rautz I've ran tests and... 09-21-2016, 10:50 PM
nikolgiorgos Sorry my friend but I didn't... 09-22-2016, 02:43 PM
Rayyaun Amendment: Extra position &... 10-01-2016, 04:43 AM
Al Svanberg Just one thought, I have... 10-01-2016, 06:31 AM
ibangali Hi nikol, I know you are more... 10-06-2016, 06:08 AM
Bunzo I take it you mean FK sa ? ... 10-06-2016, 03:40 PM
ibangali Yes, Bunzo, it was a typo :P... 10-06-2016, 04:08 PM
Rayyaun My training level is max,... 10-01-2016, 04:39 AM
nikolgiorgos you mean with the new... 10-01-2016, 07:08 AM
Al Svanberg Yeah! But I am not at all... 10-01-2016, 09:36 AM
nikolgiorgos in my example, I 'm writing... 10-01-2016, 10:42 AM
Al Svanberg No both actually, likt its... 10-03-2016, 09:21 PM
nikolgiorgos Ok, I 'm going to make a... 10-04-2016, 04:03 PM
Al Svanberg Nik- I am definitely not... 10-04-2016, 05:46 PM
LeManiaque Looks like it was written by... 10-04-2016, 11:01 PM
nikolgiorgos - Agree with the statements... 10-04-2016, 06:50 PM
Al Svanberg Niko- Yeah, I agree for sure... 10-04-2016, 09:19 PM
nikolgiorgos yes, agree so I believe that... 10-05-2016, 06:56 PM
nikolgiorgos maybe can be done. I don't... 10-06-2016, 04:22 PM
madflo19 Yes it's the same,I've... 10-06-2016, 09:05 PM
Al Svanberg Ibangali- Did you play games... 10-06-2016, 06:32 PM
ibangali No, I don't use that FT to... 10-07-2016, 03:26 AM
nikolgiorgos well, this is bad management... 10-07-2016, 06:13 PM
ibangali First correction my last... 10-07-2016, 10:38 PM
Cloverfield Just a comment on the sum-up... 10-07-2016, 07:10 PM
nikolgiorgos the problem is that when we... 10-07-2016, 07:16 PM
Cloverfield Of course there is repeat... 10-07-2016, 07:20 PM
nikolgiorgos no, I mean direct after I... 10-07-2016, 07:43 PM
Cloverfield Oh ok, got it. Although I do... 10-07-2016, 08:01 PM
nikolgiorgos I - N - I - What... 10-23-2016, 08:21 AM
ibangali Indeed, but I didn't say to... 10-25-2016, 03:53 PM
nikolgiorgos ah yes, with that logic I... 10-25-2016, 04:05 PM
ibangali Thats true again but here... 10-26-2016, 01:42 AM
CM-16 Which one's better for... 12-11-2016, 03:33 PM
nikolgiorgos sorry for merging, but it's... 12-11-2016, 05:44 PM
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    I 've done some measures and it's about the same.
    But I don't know if having some drills world class (with the world sphere) if can save little more.
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    Hi,

    I keep seeing the term norgen player. What is that??

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    I keep seeing the term norgen player. What is that??
    read this
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    Thanks for that

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    How can we determine if a player is a fast trainer or not?
    I spent now 660% condition on a player with a high TR, but he went up from 79% to 88%, is this good or bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Linter View Post
    How can we determine if a player is a fast trainer or not?
    I spent now 660% condition on a player with a high TR, but he went up from 79% to 88%, is this good or bad?
    A fast trainer:
    1. Young player 18-21(22) yo.
    2. Very expensive (very very expensive )
    3. In the old version: train him 3 bars practice match and he will improve by +80
    4. In the new version: (not very sure) train him 6 drills fast counter attacks or press the play and he will improve about 4-5% attributes or 1-2 in special ability/position every training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medo zalata View Post
    A fast trainer:
    ...
    4. In the new version: (not very sure) train him 6 drills fast counter attacks or press the play and he will improve about 4-5% attributes or 1-2 in special ability/position every training.
    I also think, it depends on the level of the drill and the mixery of drills. I think (on my own experience), it's better to use: Fast Counter, Pressing, Sprint, Gym, Wing Play and Slalom.


    But... with the new Version/Training: Do we really need Fast-Trainers?

    I have some FT (old version, they gain ~110% at practice match) and nonFT (old version, they gain ~30-40% at p.m.). From the beginning of this season, I only use new Version. They all increase their skills pretty equal.
    F.E. my Striker is a FT, increases to 123% (from 101% at season start - 20 y.o.), AML isn't (wasn't) a FT, is now 114% (from 89% - 22 y.o.).
    Right MC is a FT, startet at 99%, is now 125% - 20 y.o. Left MC isn't a FT, starts at 96%, now he is 121% - 19 y.o.

    I only used two seasons ago the old version at the beginning to learn them SA/Positions, that's why Trainingslevel is 56, three Worldclass-Drills.

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    maybe you have a point here but it's the high level of the drills you have.

    Trainingslevel is 56
    wow
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    Maybe... I'm really interested, how long (age) it works like this.
    But it's not only the drill, also the match. AML (22 y.o., no FT) gains around 4%-6% vs weaker opponents. In cup he always gains 6-10%. Also my wife had an worldclass AMC (25 y.o. also, no FT), who gains nice (from 87% to 111%). At old version, he only gains ~25% per p.m.

    I started few days after new Version, so I didn't know, there was an old version. Few games before season ending I searched on the internet, how much time between old and new season is. So I "found" this forum, read some thread and formed my squad. Used old version to check out, if it's a fast trainer. If it was, I learned them what I needed and was on with new version because of the bonus.

    But sometimes, I made incredible stupid trainingsessions, f.e. Had a game vs 2nd on League (2 points behind me), made a hard session and had no green packs. The squad was around 40% condition and I lost 0:2.
    Second game I won, so I won League one point ahead. ^^

    If I win the league days before season ending, I doesn't matter on condition and just push trainingslevel.


    PS: A full squad helps to push it.

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    be careful , an exhausted player is more vulnerable to injuries too
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