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    Sorry my friend but I didn't understand exactly this "question".
    Let me give you a maths analysis.
    In old training (3 bars, practice match, -18% condition loss), Orum could hit about 80-85 (% avg, of the blue bar - a full bar is 1 sp).
    So I had to tab the this training button about 50-55 times.
    Each time I tab the button, this cost me -18% condition loss.
    Total 55X18%=990 cond. loss
    990/15 (a green replenish 15% of condition)= 66

    New training
    Also did 55 times this six pack set , with condition loss -18= 990
    990/15 (one green)= 66 greens.

    Conclusion : world class drills, didn't help me to save some greens in this case of adding an extra pos./sa

    * because after all, the meaning of training, fast trainers and so, is to develop with the minimum cost of sources.
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    Amendment: Extra position & 50 cone sa are similar. I spent within 50 greens <= under 5 stars
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    Sorry my friend but I didn't understand exactly this "question".
    Let me give you a maths analysis.
    In old training (3 bars, practice match, -18% condition loss), Orum could hit about 80-85 (% avg, of the blue bar - a full bar is 1 sp).
    So I had to tab the this training button about 50-55 times.
    Each time I tab the button, this cost me -18% condition loss.
    Total 55X18%=990 cond. loss
    990/15 (a green replenish 15% of condition)= 66

    New training
    Also did 55 times this six pack set , with condition loss -18= 990
    990/15 (one green)= 66 greens.

    Conclusion : world class drills, didn't help me to save some greens in this case of adding an extra pos./sa

    * because after all, the meaning of training, fast trainers and so, is to develop with the minimum cost of sources.
    Just one thought, I have noticed that the total conditioning loss after a long session (like when adding a SA) is lower than what it should be if multiplying the stated conditioning loss with number of sessions (like 18x55). Could impact the numbers a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    New training
    Also did 55 times this six pack set , with condition loss -18= 990
    990/15 (one green)= 66 greens.

    Conclusion : world class drills, didn't help me to save some greens in this case of adding an extra pos./sa

    * because after all, the meaning of training, fast trainers and so, is to develop with the minimum cost of sources.
    Hi nikol, I know you are more experienced than me and you were researching this power training, which helping us to improve our players. I'd like to share with you and others what I found :

    I power train my 4* AMC+ST [18 yo] to give him FK sa, I didn't keep record how many rest pack I used but so far I can tell it was not more than 30, may be between 25-30 green. Today I bought one FT ST 18 yo 3* and I was giving him AMR position, when I bought him he join with 80% condition, which I make screen shot to show you and suggest me if I'm in right track or not please. I didn't use any green on him yet but I'll use tomorrow and I believe it won't cost me more than 45 green, I'm hoping 40/42 green, I use world class "First counter attack". I don't know about old training but if you look my screenshot then it might help your research that new training more helpful or not to save our green

    Thanks

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    P.s: Last season I power train my aml+st and amr+st, give them ml and mr position, both were 22 yo, 6* and it cost me 48/50 green for each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibangali View Post
    Hi nikol, I know you are more experienced than me and you were researching this power training, which helping us to improve our players. I'd like to share with you and others what I found :

    I power train my 4* AMC+ST [18 yo] to give him FC sa, I didn't keep record how many rest pack I used but so far I can tell it was not more than 30, may be between 25-30 green. Today I bought one FT ST 18 yo 3* and I was giving him AMR position, when I bought him he join with 80% condition, which I make screen shot to show you and suggest me if I'm in right track or not please. I didn't use any green on him yet but I'll use tomorrow and I believe it won't cost me more than 45 green, I'm hoping 40/42 green, I use world class "First counter attack". I don't know about old training but if you look my screenshot then it might help your research that new training more helpful or not to save our green

    Thanks

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    P.s: Last season I power train my aml+st and amr+st, give them ml and mr position, both were 22 yo, 6* and it cost me 48/50 green for each.

    I take it you mean FK sa ? ( that you added ) 25-30 greens is amazing but you never really counted them ?


    Edit: was this using the new training btw ?

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    Yes, Bunzo, it was a typo :P
    Its FK and new training, I need to save more green next 2 days then I can power train my new 3* 18 yo ST, whom I'm giving AMR position and I'll keep record this time about cost of green pack
    thanks