Mythbusters of top eleven

[HairDryer]

just put it this way, my goalkeeper have no attack skill no freekick sa have score 3 in 5 freekick not a bad ratio.

[Tactician]

just put it this way, my goalkeeper have no attack skill no freekick sa have score 3 in 5 freekick not a bad ratio.

Things just happen in this game to satisfy the outcomes that the game engine has calculated. If the game calculated that your team will say score two goals from free-kicks and two goals from corners, it will have to happen even if you put your GK as free-kick and corner kick taker. Some people on the forum experimented with goalkeepers at corners, free-kicks and penalties. It turned out that the GKs were indeed doing things at an unexpected level and against the logic of football. The same applies to those 2-3 star goalkeepers suddenly turned like a super goalkeeper and the 6-8 stars goalkeepers suddenly turned into mediocre goalkeepers. Those things happen because things have to go in such a way to satisfy what the game engine has calculated. So, even facing a 2-star goalkeeper will be like a mountain if the game decided that your team will not score in this particular match for whatever reasons. In other words, the game lacks a lot of logic.

[nikolgiorgos]

The Myth of the GK training trick
I already wrote that to Fast trainers thread #461
https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...ainers-47.html

so let's add it here.
It's the myth of using the GK set of drills to gain more than the usual.
Actually is the same. The only thing that can make a difference is if you have a lucky roll-dice in the last alone drill that gives the massive skills (but still it's not more than a +-10% )

Still continuing the conversation in a T11 fb group, so to finish with that Myth, I offered a bet.







The same challenge is for the forum members too.
I 'm here

[FC Dacia Terra]

The Myth of the GK training trick
I already wrote that to Fast trainers thread #461
https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...ainers-47.html

so let's add it here.
It's the myth of using the GK set of drills to gain more than the usual.
Actually is the same. The only thing that can make a difference is if you have a lucky roll-dice in the last alone drill that gives the massive skills (but still it's not more than a +-10% )

Still continuing the conversation in a T11 fb group, so to finish with that Myth, I offered a bet.







The same challenge is for the forum members too.
I 'm here

I agree now that the numbers are not real. The guy was and is acting nice just to win admires and supporters for his group, who knows maybe someone rewards him and his friends for earning more and more subscribers to the group... Anyway, sorry for what I wrote in the post, now I know that he's a lier. Cheers!

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[talisman]

Already tried that training scheme, with good success...

Fresh from the Youth Academy...



After 6 rounds of the above training, using the 'Attacking Midfielder' regime, 121* rest packs used.



*More used than anticipated per above as my training drills are only '3 Whistle' level whereas the author of the scheme is 'Globe' level.

I'll say the training scheme works, but whether it works the same with all players of same age and starting Quality remains to be seen. I'm not ready to fully endorse it without further trials, but it looks impressive for now...

[khris]

contests and bettings everywhere lol

[nikolgiorgos]

@talisman

After 6 rounds of the above training, using the 'Attacking Midfielder' regime, 121* rest packs used.

I'll say the training scheme works, but whether it works the same with all players of same age and starting Quality remains to be seen. I'm not ready to fully endorse it without further trials, but it looks impressive for now...

Very good example to confirm my words.
So, your player from q 78 went to q 85.
This is 7q .
You are an old version player too, so can understand better for next explanation.
1 q is 15 old skill points (1 star = 5 q, 5 q = 15 s.p., 1 star = 75 s.p.).
So your player earned 7q X15 s.p. = 105 old skill points.
121 greens X15 (condition) = 1815 total condition / 18 =100,83
What is 18 ? It's the condition loss if setting 3 bars/practice match.
So, it's like you made this training in old version, 100 times and you earned 105 s.p.

A couple of times I signed a 4* academy player, he could do some + 130-140 till his 5* and later as a high 5* player, could do avg +100 (1 sp) in this training (3 bars/practice - 18% condition loss).

So I cannot see anything impressive , just the progress of a regular fast trainer.
You could succeed this progress (more or less) with normal drill sets for his position with the same amount of greens.


Anther prove :
If you spent 121 greens to make a player from high 4* to early 5* (about 1,5 star) how someone with 115 greens can make a 8* to 9* ?

A new official jersey is waiting the "magician"

[pcmacdaniel]

I just trained a player from 35% to 120% using goalkeeper training most of the way.

Player progressed as normal, with the growth rate gradually slowing as he moved to a higher stars level. Getting to 120% is pretty quick and easy, it only cost somewhere in the 350-400 rest range to do that, and that was with me finishing off a triple role on my player.

20 rest = finshing off triple role
16 rest 35%-40%
150 rest 40%-80%
90 rest 80%-100%
110 rest 100-120%

P.S. not exact numbers but was pretty close to that w/ GK training...

I was using too sequences.

GK, GK, GK, GK, GK, GK. Assignment of skills is somewhat random it seemed, something like + 38% shooting, +33% passing and +41% shooting occurs with this setup.

and

GK, GK, GK, GK, GK, drill (Long run for example). Sometimes I got back +2% fitness, +3% speed, other times +1% fitness, +2% speed,but it all balanced out in the end. .

It was in the 70-80 rest range all the way to 80%, a little slower at the 80-100% range, and between 100-120 used to go from 100% to 120%.

However, I do think we need to thankful to the admin in charge of that training for sharing it. One thing i've noticed is that when it comes to training our players, many managers in western nations, Africa, etc... don't train their players as well as in the Far East. When we play against the Chinese, I see a larger percentage of the player pool with a low grays stats average, compared to say Europe. So hopefully discussions like about previously lesser known topics such as goalkeeper training and other training procedures can help those of us close the gap on the Far East managers in regards to quality of the players.

[Ποσιδονας]

However, I do think we need to thankful to the admin in charge of that training for sharing it. One thing i've noticed is that when it comes to training our players, many managers in western nations, Africa, etc... don't train their players as well as in the Far East. When we play against the Chinese, I see a larger percentage of the player pool with a low grays stats average, compared to say Europe. So hopefully discussions like about previously lesser known topics such as goalkeeper training and other training procedures can help those of us close the gap on the Far East managers in regards to quality of the players.

But if we are not earning more greens with GK trick (I think you admit that) why to give thanks ?
And about the associations top100 teams from Asia, well most of them are cheaters because they are doing manipulations and power-training after the draw, using packs they got with not so legit ways

[KenoticFC]

I will try it myself with a fast trainer I bought yesterday and he is currently 79%. I wanted to wait for some offers but screw it it's probably gonna be 5 0T offers before I get to sell him. I save my greens like a fanatic but YOLO lol.

The surprisingly funny thing for me is GK has been one of the least effecting drills in my experience even for GK themselves. I call BS on that and I agree with Nikos explanation.