The new Champions league draw system

[madflo19]

how the hell are you doing this ? lol
I 'm jealous
I need two seasons to win one CH.L. trophy (if everything gonna be alright there)

I just check with the old version,there are teams with the average quality of all squad from 152.9 quality ,3*(the lowest) to 161 quality 5*(the highest,only 1 team)
I am 154.5 quality 4*,the 4 th worst from all,maybe this is why i'm playing in a same lvl ch league,because of my very low average quality of all squad?because my 1st 11 it's about 15% better than any other team from my ch l


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[nikolgiorgos]

no, it's not that trick.
I drop q for the Cup too, (finishing with eight 7* and six 1*), have a good draw there, but still in a +1 in CH.L.
Only this season I kept them all.

[talisman]

Oh dear, the triple-crowner and almost-triples are punished the next season...



Yes, they're of comparable Quality, but I've always found a certain something that favours the Level+ teams when matches are played.

[nikolgiorgos]

yes the quality is close but they can buy scouts for 1 token.
My strategy is to try and win as more as possible points and in the 2nd round, examine again who of those +1 lv managers are ambitious and active and then maybe choose the Super league option.
There, the +1 lv managers usually are also from +1 lv, but from positions 5-8, so not so active as the CH.L. teams.
So , few more chances to win a cup and promote in next CH.L. too.

[nikolgiorgos]

What I really hate is that playing vs higher lv teams (with good q, about same ), I have the filling that there must be some hidden factor who gives some extra bonus in the higher level team.
Usually in efficiency (+ , -) or some happenings





* watching this from my other team, to exam the stats and rates as in version there is a problem/ bug


ok, not aways

[nikolgiorgos]

Yes, I was also watching a game of a friend yesterday in CH.L., Sakis from lv42, winner of previous league, vs Yannis (2nd in previous league), from lv41
In the beginning of this issue, I was thinking that it was a scenario, creating an obstacle for the League/double/treble winners to win a 2nd in a row but as you can see, Sakis has a chance this time, to win the treble more easily.

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Also I can assure you that his quality is good (7* players team) so it's not that scenario either.

ok, as we saw in previous season, my friend Sakis even if he was a League winner played in an equal/-1 CH.L.

This season, Sakis won his league again and playing in an equal/-1 CH.L (again)

[nikolgiorgos]

In this thread
https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...-format-2.html

we can read this explanation why some teams are playing in a +1 CH.L. while others not


but I can't find any criterion from above, why Sakis is playing in an equal/ -1 CH.L. again.

He won the League and CH.L. previous season and almost got the treble, he has a very good team of 7* players (here they are as 10*), young, expensive with special abilities and you can see the trophies he got the last seasons.
Also he 's farming 30 vids/day and he 's a (light) buyer too.



I 'm thinking that some teams are "marked" to play in a CH.L. +1 while in others (like Sakis or my lucky friend madflo), there is an unknown factor that set them in an equal CH.L. competition (most of the times)

[nikolgiorgos]

ok, last season I played in a +1 LV CH.L., tried to win the NIVEA cup but didn't make it (NIK and RINOKEROS played and lost in the final - at extra time and penalties).
Those are the relative CH.L. finals of my competitions




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I can't see any challenge or chance to this

same thing this season

[madflo19]

+1 lvl champions league this season for Panathinaikos after a tanking season(won nivea cup last season)
-1 lvl champions league for AC Milan
For me it's clear,quality is what matters,Panathinaikos had 123%,Milan had 80% before the draw


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[nikolgiorgos]

I don't think so - at list not the main reason.
This story was old and at that time I dropped quality for the (old) Cup (8 +6 1* players).
I played with 5* teams in the cup, from lower levels but still in a +1 lv in CH.L.