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    Troll 3: 1-1 vs equal team. But we dominated the match.
    Troll 4: 1-0 loss in the Cup Quarter Finals.
    Troll: 5 2-1 win vs abandoned team. But we dominated that game.
    Are those troll results ? Are you serious ?

    This is a troll result but I don't count it as it's an asso game and as I said in the beginning, asso games/events usually have broken engine and fixed results

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    Are those troll results ? Are you serious ?


    This is a troll result but I don't count it as it's an asso game and as I said in the beginning, asso games/events usually have broken engine and fixed results
    Ok maybe they are not. But still, I feel that I have my fair share of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max McClean View Post
    Wow 4-1 would do my head in. I am not being rude but that is probably you out of the CL this season. I hope you win your second match by the amount of goals that you need to win by. At least you won 6 champions leagues, you also came runner up twice. I lost 3 CL Finals out of three to weaker teams so you are lucky. And Can I ask? Did you win your first CL on level 2. I lost my First CL Final our of the 3 I have been in on level 2. I see level 2 as you winning the league and cup while being the stronger team. And then you play in the CL Final and lose to a weaker team. Anyway so far I have Conceded 9 gaols in 28 games this season. And I have conceded 6 in my last 9 games. And before that, I only conceded 3 in 19 and made 13 consecutive Clean Sheets.

    Max, first, I wanted to thank you for your wishes. It can be helpful to have support in the community to the randomness of the game. As a follow up on my game and to show the ridiculousness of the engine, I won my second leg.

    I lost my first leg 4-1 on his field. I had 63% possessions yet we both shot 21 shots and he got 12 on target against my 7. My GK made 8 saves, which means my defenders didn't block a single shot.

    Today, however, with the same team (111% vs 100%), I had 67% possession, 25 shots to his 8, 13 on target to his 4. He got a penalty and scored. End result: I won 7-1. :-/

    First time I got trolled on leg 1 and then trolled the other team on leg 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucian1986 View Post
    Max, first, I wanted to thank you for your wishes. It can be helpful to have support in the community to the randomness of the game. As a follow up on my game and to show the ridiculousness of the engine, I won my second leg.

    I lost my first leg 4-1 on his field. I had 63% possessions yet we both shot 21 shots and he got 12 on target against my 7. My GK made 8 saves, which means my defenders didn't block a single shot.

    Today, however, with the same team (111% vs 100%), I had 67% possession, 25 shots to his 8, 13 on target to his 4. He got a penalty and scored. End result: I won 7-1. :-/

    First time I got trolled on leg 1 and then trolled the other team on leg 2.
    Congrats. It happened to me several time in Cup or CL but never with a high score like yours. So, in long term, the game is more or less fair since everyone get troll. But I prefer a non-troll game engine. For now, when I defeat a strong opponent, I don't have a feeling that I did well, it just a good day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandef View Post
    Congrats. It happened to me several time in Cup or CL but never with a high score like yours. So, in long term, the game is more or less fair since everyone get troll. But I prefer a non-troll game engine. For now, when I defeat a strong opponent, I don't have a feeling that I did well, it just a good day.
    I couldn't agree with you more. Everyone gets trolled, but because it is random, it ruins all games because it could have just been a good day. Also, to go from 4-1 to 1-7 is somewhat ridiculous in my book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gogs67 View Post
    i was runner up in CL and semi final of Cup
    And I was only using my last seasons example to show how incorrect your statement " If you played against a 50% quality team and you were 115%, you would still probably lose 1 game for 10 you win" actually was.
    It showed, using real-time stats, that you 'probably wouldn't" lose one game in ten against such weak opposition, the odds would be far higher than that.
    The two golden rules for this game are 'don't spend any money on it' and 'don't expect to win everything'
    Keep to these and the game stays fun
    I have to agree with you here but I wouldn’t say it would be 1 in 50 maybe 1 in 40.

    It only happened once in 28 games for me. So that is occurrence of about 3.3 In 100

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max McClean View Post
    I have to agree with you here but I wouldn’t say it would be 1 in 50 maybe 1 in 40.

    It only happened once in 28 games for me. So that is occurrence of about 3.3 In 100
    Problem is that we aren't always playing against teams that are 50% weaker. If you play against 75% and you are 100%, you stats jump. At this point, the lack of consistency is frustrating. You can be favorites for a match (+20%) yet still lose by a large margin.

    A game where you go into the match saying: "well, does the engine favor me today or will I just lose because it said so" is pretty much a game of randomness. This disenfranchises the player

    To answer your earlier question, yes, I won level 2 Champions League. I lost my first cup on lvl one because I was already knocked out when I took control of the team. In fact, the team lost 7 games before I took control of the team. However, to argue my point, since the game is quite random, the trophies have just as much to do with luck as management. I know how you feel. I lost one final 2-1 against a team that was 89 (I was 121%).
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    beat the undefeated top side in the league 7-0....lost the next game 2-1 to the bottom side....this game is fcuked