How many troll results you had this season ?

[Tactician]

I've not noticed that for the several seasons I've been back in TE. I could meet one of the main contenders in one of the last three matches of the season, but not all of them and in the last consecutive days.

On the contrary, I seem to play the other big-shots fairly early in the cycle (about the end of the first week and entering the 3rd weekend). Good, I think, to get them out of the way and then make hay amongst the minnows...

In the past (2015-2016), usually 1st would play 2nd or 3rd in the last days of week 4. I have not noticed that since I came back too; maybe they changed it. This season for my team, it is start of week 2 and end of week 3 - start of week 4.

[Iridensys]

Today semifinal of CL at home.

First leg was finished 1-1, I entered in game at minute 33 and my team wins 2-0. After 2 minutes my opponent score one gol.

Final score 3-4, he has not changed his tactics.

I don't know If we can consider a troll result, but maybe if I did not follow the game was better.



After 8 season I believe that following the game is not a real advantage for our team, it is like the game puts you on a test...are you following the game? Ok, I raise the difficulty so let's see what you can do.

[nash123]

Is it a troll?



I'm white... it's the same thing a again, a lot more shots, but not on target... so what's that? And how to solve it?
After his 2:0 lead, the SoT were 2:3 - 100% efficiency...

Btw: I beat this opponent 7:1 and 7:1 at cup, I won 3:0 at 1.leg of CL... he played always same formation.

[nikolgiorgos]

no doubt that Real Madrid is the Team Of the Season
Let's see some results of this season
(relative link Real Madrid Results | Sky Sports )


3 games (draws) where couldn't win League teams much weaker
A double bad result in the Cup (and goodbye treble )

Some not god results vs remarkable teams.


The Spanish League table


Not so different from T11 games.
But is our team better than Real Madrid ?
hmmm

[nikolgiorgos]

Ok, let's make a resume here
First about the "rules"
We are talking abut our teams (not our friends, or our League mates)
We are talking about the 3 official competitions (not friendlies or asso games)
We are talking vs very weak teams (2 stars below our team, abnormal formation, players out of position).
A team without the manager watching, doesn't mean it's abandoned.
A team with 5*-6* players in a good day, doing all the right things, can win any game.

We are not talking about broken stats, a fake 65%-35% ball possession without any effect in the game flow.
We are not talking about a fix result , when whatever we do in game, has no effect and it ends without being able to win it.
* not that the other team was better and won us (that's a troll) but we just couldn't score (or score more goals).

And remember the question of the thread :
How many troll results you had in this season ?
sub-question :
More than two ?
Because it was accepted all those years that 1-2 troll results it was normal for T11 ( ).
Has anything changed in the game the latest months ?

[Tactician]

For me, the problem is with the word used itself: 'troll'. There are no 'troll' results in this game, but there are fixed results in this game for whatever reasons or matches where the game take the side of one team so much that the other team cannot win despite having quality and tactics, and whatever happens in those matches have not much sense. This can occur against whatever opponent - weaker, same quality or stronger, active or non-active. There are also unexpected or abnormal results due to flaws in this game.

According to what some people refer as 'troll', it is where a weak, abandoned team (no manager, no training and so on) got a win or a draw against a much stronger team, but that is a fixed result too (in case it has nothing to do with tactics). This 'troll' word has nothing to do with it, and the topic of the thread itself needs correction, unless there are some people at Nordeus really acting like trolls where they are trolling some managers in this game or they created a virtual troll that is going here and there in the game trolling teams, that is, doing bad things on intention and making fun out of them.

For me, what is happening in this game is probably due to attempts to simulate how things happen in real life, just that in real life there is no abandoned team with no manager and no training and so on. Other things have happened due to flaws too. For the first case, as long as this apply the same to every team in the same league, it is fair in some way to say, but sure it is a problem when it comes to knock-out stages. For the second case, the flaws need to be corrected.

[KenoticFC]

For me, the problem is with the word used itself: 'troll'. There are no 'troll' results in this game, but there are fixed results in this game for whatever reasons or matches where the game take the side of one team so much that the other team cannot win despite having quality and tactics, and whatever happens in those matches have not much sense. This can occur against whatever opponent - weaker, same quality or stronger, active or non-active. There are also unexpected or abnormal results due to flaws in this game.

According to what some people refer as 'troll', it is where a weak, abandoned team (no manager, no training and so on) got a win or a draw against a much stronger team, but that is a fixed result too (in case it has nothing to do with tactics). This 'troll' word has nothing to do with it, and the topic of the thread itself needs correction.

For me, what is happening in this game is probably due to attempts to simulate how things happen in real life, just that in real life there is no abandoned team with no manager and no training. Other things have happened due to flaws too. For the first case. as long as this apply the same to every team in the same league, it is fair in some way to say, but sure it is a problem when it comes to knock-out stages.

Then Nordeus makes this on purpose. The only reason I could think of is trying to throw sand into our eyes hiding the fact that there are few active players in the game. Like we are dumb not to understand that, the latest competitions showed that well, only 3 active teams in my league. If the manager doesn't care about his team, the game engine shouldn't care either its useless and disrespectful to artificially make them stronger. Let those 2,3 or whatever active managers decide the title between themselves.

[Tactician]

But niko, I didn't think you would fall into the trap comparing this with reality man. It's not like Celta Vigo is an abandoned team playing with defenders as strikers

Then Nordeus makes this on purpose. The only reason I could think of is trying to throw sand into our eyes hiding the fact that there are few active players in the game. Like we are dumb not to understand that, the latest competitions showed that well, only 3 active teams in my league. If the manager doesn't care about his team, the game engine shouldn't care either its useless and disrespectful to artificially make them stronger. Let those 2,3 or whatever active managers decide the title between themselves.

Take it easy or less seriously. I understand how it feels; I have been on that side too many times concerning this game itself. You can look among my older posts and you will probably see how many complaints I have made concerning this game in the past, some so much that some of the forum users themselves got annoyed with all those posts. Nik is trying to help, trying to contribute and also do his 'job' as forum moderator.

On purpose....? I am not sure for all of the bad things, but maybe some of them. No one is perfect. If what has happened are due to attempts to simulate of how things happen in real life, then Nordeus missed that part where it comes to what if there were abandoned teams (no manager, no training and so on)? If it is due to flaws, then again people can make errors, and also errors or faults can happen in the game engine itself. What would be really bad is if Nordeus deliberately programmed things to significantly deceive people, make them lose and so on in an attempt to boost their profits. There are many deceiving things in this game, and lately many have noticed about the new ones - the player selling thing and the ratings of generated players sold via the auction market. But, given that this is out of the topic of this thread, I won't continue about that here.

[KenoticFC]

Take it easy or less seriously. I understand how it feels; I have been on that side too many times concerning this game itself. You can look among my older posts and you will probably see how many complaints I have made concerning this game in the past, some so much that some of the forum users themselves got annoyed with all those posts. Nik is trying to help, trying to contribute and also do his 'job' as forum moderator.

On purpose, I am not sure for all of the bad things, but maybe some of them. No one is perfect. If what has happened are due to attempts to simulate of how things happen in real life, then Nordeus missed that part where it comes to what if there were abandoned teams (no manager, no training and so on)? If it is due to flaws, then again people can make errors, and also errors or faults can happen in the game engine itself. What would be really bad is if Nordeus deliberately programmed things to significantly deceive people, make them lose and so on in an attempt to boost their profits. There are many deceiving things in this game, and lately many have noticed about the new ones - the player selling things and the ratings of generated players sold via the auction market. But, given that this is out of the topic of this thread, I won't continue about that here.

Thanks for the concern man but regarding nik I said that in a joking way .Believe me I don't lose sleep over the game.
My philosophy is simple, if you abandon your controller in Fifa the oppo.will score, the same in a first person shooter ,they will take you out there is no computer who takes over and plays for you.
My theories are basically these
1. Troll results are really just the result of a bad engine
2. On purpose to deceive us like I explained in the previous post.
3. They just help the predetermined winner lift the crown at the end, no matter how well you might have done against him in direct matches.

[Tactician]

Thanks for the concern man but regarding nik I said that in a joking way .Believe me I don't lose sleep over the game.
My philosophy is simple, if you abandon your controller in Fifa the oppo.will score, the same in a first person shooter ,they will take you out there is no computer who takes over and plays for you.
My theories are basically these
1. Troll results are really just the result of a bad engine
2. On purpose to deceive us like I explained in the previous post.
3. They just help the predetermined winner lift the crown at the end, no matter how well you might have done against him in direct matches.

Yes, but that comes to the issue I have raised or said in some other posts - how much control we, as managers have on our team and how much influence we can have on the performances of players, their behaviours, the match results and so on by doing actions in the game. How much can we control in terms of managing a team itself like the style of play, the tactics and so on, and how much of that is reflected on the pitch. In this game, we have limited control; most things have little effect and some are just cosmetic, and some do not respond logically. Clear improvements required in this game would be to provide more control to managers but less cosmetics and also less non-logical responses, but the game also has to stay in the limit of being an online and mobile game too. For sure, there is room for improvement.

Oh and in Fifa there is; you just have to slide your controller icon to the neutral area (neither right nor left).