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    Quote Originally Posted by a.gavrilin View Post
    and btw do you even understand that now FA rankings and all FA structure will be based NOT on SPORTS PRINCIPLE. The top ranking will be not the best teams but the teams with better mutlipliers. One simple example - you beat one FA 25-10. But all your members have x1 multiplier and all the opponent teams have x3 multiplier. In the end of the tournament you get 25 points and the opponent 30 points and as a result he is ranked higher than you. How the hell this can be reasonable - you are stronger which is proved in a personal matchup, but still he is higher.
    "and btw do you even understand that now FA rankings and all FA structure will be based NOT on SPORTS PRINCIPLE. The top ranking will be not the best teams but the teams with better mutlipliers"

    Because until this season it was based on sports principle. xD

    As I said, without a equal team, a 2nd team, like we had in the IC, is imposible to have a 100% fair and non manipulable system. Thats a fact.

    There was no prestige in manipulating the draws using 1* players and by tanking even with the teams rejecting tokens.
    This had 0% sense.

    So, nothing better than create kinda like a CL style tournament, rewarding the seasonal effort, because the regular season team we use is the same we use for FAs, and this, as i mentioned, should lower the avq ratio instead create an amount of stuck teams as we had.
    The AvQ margin, from 1 to 180% is too much wide to provide equality, thats another point, but by forcing promotions this gap should be reduced.

    Regarding the top servers, I'm absolutely agree in that the posible punishments should be removed in the top server, so if a level is repeated all teams should be considered as promoted.

    and I guess we could have something like this to promote top server teams without stuck all teams there...
    https://forum.topeleven.com/suggesti...-sent-lv1.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by khris View Post
    "and btw do you even understand that now FA rankings and all FA structure will be based NOT on SPORTS PRINCIPLE. The top ranking will be not the best teams but the teams with better mutlipliers"

    Because until this season it was based on sports principle. xD

    As I said, without a equal team, a 2nd team, like we had in the IC, is imposible to have a 100% fair and non manipulable system. Thats a fact.

    There was no prestige in manipulating the draws using 1* players and by tanking even with the teams rejecting tokens.
    This had 0% sense.

    So, nothing better than create kinda like a CL style tournament, rewarding the seasonal effort, because the regular season team we use is the same we use for FAs, and this, as i mentioned, should lower the avq ratio instead create an amount of stuck teams as we had.
    The AvQ margin, from 1 to 180% is too much wide to provide equality, thats another point, but by forcing promotions this gap should be reduced.

    Regarding the top servers, I'm absolutely agree in that the posible punishments should be removed in the top server, so if a level is repeated all teams should be considered as promoted.

    and I guess we could have something like this to promote top server teams without stuck all teams there...
    https://forum.topeleven.com/suggesti...-sent-lv1.html
    Well, top level case IMHO is the easiest solution - you can always through top guys to any other random level of the league if the promote to the next level. And it should not always be level 1. Let's say - today I play with people from level 7, the next season it will be level 57. The main principle should only be the AVQ of the game. I also wonder why in the middle levels we have so many bots and abandon teams or teams created by the game engine. Sometimes I remember some levels when I had only 3 active managers, 2-3 abandon teams and the rest were bots with 33-35% quality. Where are these teams on top levels? Now with this update I will not be able to play FA tournaments or my contribution to my association will be close to 0. But I'm 100% sure Nordeus will do nothing to solve or change anything because they have 0 profit from this. Why should they even bother with old managers for 0 profit when they can create one more lab or special sponsor to cut you money
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