A Guide for fast trainers

[nikolgiorgos]

lv6 p28 day 16 “New kids in town”
This season I ‘ve bought 3 players so far – fast trainers of course and they ‘re doing all right.
One is 1st class nordgen and the other two 2nd class.
A DC who learned sa “Defensive wall”, one of the best sa. In my MC started giving sa “dribbler” . Let’s try this sa – first time.





Of course I ‘ve change the names to Brazilian players

ps : by the way, here you can see a bug is hapenning this season. Didi, the MC, when I bought him had the wage of 320 K. Adding the sp, the program raised his wage to 380 K (it was the moment I took the screenshot) but if you log in - out the wage return back to the normal

[nikolgiorgos]

lv6 p29 day 28 - Last day of the season, so what to do ?

Ok, another season comes in the end. It was succesfull for me, I won the double so what to do today ?
A final training isn't so bad idea even if my players are now in high quality stars and the raise low. If you have the sources (green/red packs) and good trainers why not ?
Let's see.



of course we cannot compare it with the numbers of the first days but if it's a quite day let's go for training.



Another good idea is to play a friendly with Mourinho. We 'll not gain anything extra instead of playing with a friend, just a shot now that our team is in maximum quality.

ps : remember, not to tired your players much because even those tomorow it's a new season, the condition of the players continues from previous season.

[Bellgarion]

Hi, I am beginner (lv2) and I have a question. Is this super fast trainer with TR like 409 or my calculations are wrong?

[t11_fan]

Hi Bellagrion, welcome to the t11 forum.
I'd suggest you to read few existing threads and tutorials about game.
Unwritten rule of experienced players is that there is no need for fast trainers (aka nordgens) on low levels.
It is because for this value you can buy 3-4x 5* players on level 2. Also it would require a lot of time and resources to train your player up to 5* quallity which is actually pointless. That player is nordgen, but i'd suggest to sell him and buy older 5* players (up to 30 years old). Nordgens are useful on higher levels (mostly because of finances), but only 5* nordgens. Weaker require a lot of boosters and trainings to get them up on wanted quallity.
Are you from Romania? There is also part of forum on Romanian language (if it is easier for you to communicate)

[Abu Latifa]

Can't agree more I have several account with Different levels (7-5-4-3) and from 11 players I have 2-5 fast players who I bought in several seasons the rest of the team consist of cheap slow trainers 5 stars usually they play for 2-3 season before they drop to three star by that time I replace them with new players you can't get 11 fast player in each season in every position you want

[t11_fan]

I use nordgens only for GK, defenders and offensive minded players (AM and ST) just because they need one or 1-2 strong skills and that makes great difference. I'm now on league level 14, still using my GK which is now Q81 (4*) 24 years old, bought him few season ago when he was Q64 (5*). His defensive skill is 94 which is now scout level skill.
On the other profile i'm using strong 3* ST because his attacking skill is on 5* level and physical on 4* level. He is now in 1st team, but if i buy 5* ST with much stronger att and phy skills, he will become substitute.

[nikolgiorgos]

@Bellgarion , yes he is a fast trainer but remember ( I 'm saying somewere else) that TR factor VALUE/WAGE it's only an indicator to recognize a fast trainer, not the reason wich is a fast trainer so must be the original - the numbers that a player has when he 's coming in the game for first time, meaning that the player must be :
- a nordgen
- an academy player
- a player from a first time created team (your's it's only sure).
Why is that ? Because this player if you train him good, he 'll have some sp wich if you add them in his skills, his Value 'll change but his Wage not, so his numbers aren't the original anymore. If you sell him and another mgr buy him, the numbers maybe gonna be V1,5M'/W 3,2K but as you can see they aren't the original anymore.
So it's good to be able to recognize from where a young players is coming and remember to keep records.
If you just buy this player, I can say that his numbers aren't the originals. You bought him probably from some other (human) player because usually the numbers of the nordgens or academy players are more equals - for examble Def 18,5 Att.19,5 M&P 19.
About this player, maybe you 'll see excelent gainings like +150 in practice/3 bars or in some games. one problem is that he is only 3* so as my friends above saying, with this money you can buy 2-3 veteran 5* players

[Belvedere]

Is this guy worth signing at this point of the season ?
Manager lvl 6, player is with 4 stars.

[nikolgiorgos]

Oh, ok, an academy player. Some things to tell :
- you overdoing on cutting the picture - I would like to see more details about the quality/ stars. Ok, he is 4* but what q ?
Near 3 or near 5* - probably near 5* because he cost 24T.
- as I told in this thread, http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...ge-player.html, answering to Steppenwolf (a very experience player in training), I don't like to sign with academy players. Why ?
Maybe they are the faster trainers in the game (and I bet he could post some results of his player with +160 to +190) but they lack of quality (I mean stars, not in performance) for the Tokens you must pay. If you see this post, my player/example, is now 6* and soon if I want, he 'll be 7* and I bought him with 2T. Of course there are also the money you have to give because academy players don't want money. An academy player can gain +150 in practice while a nordgen can gain less, but he is very near to scout (6*) level.
- So, academy players need more time (meaning to be more active in the game and find the periods to train him) and boosters (green for getting back condition and red for healing him from an injury).
- There is a possibility that this player cannot have good results in training. From the other side, nordgen usually have a more steady pattern in training performance.
- Another thing is about managing your resources. This is more personaly, meaning that I lack of tokens but I have green packs and plenty of (game) money. Also, it's easier for me - I 'm talking about my country (Greece) and the time I woke up, to find good expensive nordgens with few people to bid in auctions.
- Another thing is the position of the player. It's easy to find a good nordgen MC but it's rear to find an AMR/MR or a AML/ML, so if I had an academy player with these positions, maybe I would sign with him.
- It's personal again, but I don't like to have DML or DMR in my team. With those positions, that means you must have also 3 defenders, so 5 people in defense and still vulnerable from the middle. DMC although is a very useful position.
- It's ok to have some players 4* but if you want to go for trophies you must have at least 5* and some 6* players.
- I had an academy player, a GK, one of the faster trainers in my team (ever), I spend green and red packs to get him 6*/7* player and the next season he started to have perm. performances of 5s. Finally, I sold him because I couldn't stand his rates even if my team had very good defense. So be careful, probably this player playing as DMC can have permanent rates of 6 or 7 only because DMC have rates as the MCs.
After all, I would sign only an academy player as AMR-MR, AML-ML or AMC/AMR-AML because those players are rare in TM.
That's my personal thinking but you can find your own path

[VouGanhar]

Do you get +49 hability points in some players with only one practice game? Oo

I cant get more then +2!