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    I already have 2 players with those SA (2+2) so I wanted to try this one (also as a safe/counter to a future rival GK with one/one).
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    LV5 p21 day5 “new season, new fast trainers, higher wages”
    Hi my friends again. I ‘m at LV5 now, after a successful season (winning the double)
    New season, so we ‘re searching again young fast trainers to reinforce the team. Unfortunately the first day were very “dry” , very few fast trainers, high quality nordgens.
    I bought 2 and today another one. Those are the first two players.

    A Guide for fast trainers-dirceu.jpg
    A Guide for fast trainers-auzqui-nordgen.jpg

    About the third I ‘ll post another thread because I ‘m wondering about some things.
    As we know and can see, the values have grown but the wages even more.
    In LV4 the wages for the first class 5* youngers were 120-160 but now they ‘re starting from 160-250K. So we ‘re looking for lower Training Factors. The 3rd player I bought , has VALUE 9,9M/ WAGE 210 K =47,14 , the bigger I found so far. But even with low TR.F. those 1st class trainers still can gain over +100 in training, 3 bars, practice match.
    I don’t know yet how it ‘ll drop if they get the 1st red star.

    Here is my third fast trainer http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...-position.html
    Last edited by nikolgiorgos; 10-23-2014 at 09:01 PM.
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    LV5 p22 day5 “ The incredible HULK “ part 3

    I want to refer to one of my player. It’s the “incredible” HULK again who still surprises me also at this season. Check this out.

    A Guide for fast trainers-hulk-season-5.jpg

    His contract finished and I was waiting to renew it the first day and after that I signed some skill points from previous season so his wage wouldn’t go much higher.
    His TR.F is now 4,5M/180K=26,6. As you can see the Training Factor previous season was 4,2M/39K =107,69. With this great factor was a fast trainer but how it comes, this season, at the age of 23 and this low TR.F. that he can “hit” +67- +87 in training ? (3 bars, practice match) ?
    The conclusions we can have is that some fast trainers can have good numbers at bigger ages than 18-21 and second , what counts it’s the origin Training Factor, meaning VALUE/WAGE when the player started his carrier in the game. After signing s.p. the Value increasing, in the next season, the player lose 1 star and Value drops again, when we renew the contract, the wage goes up. But what it counts it’s the first numbers.
    So only if we are buying nordgen players or academy players we can be sure 100% about the “original” numbers of the player.
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    I don't know if someone already said that, but you can actually save all your skill points from the year you are tanking so you don't get the players wage to rise and when it's time for you to play seriusly you assign the skill points the mayhem comes knocking!
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    yes, it's good idea. I usually keep my sp for the last days of the season -semi/finals (except this season where my opponents were to tough).
    check this http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...gue-final.html
    Check this thread also, it's about Values and wages
    http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...ge-player.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by t11_fan View Post
    Some of my players who are in my club for 2-3 seasons, none power trained. Look at contracts
    Attachment 30906
    Remember this?
    1 season later they still rock 'n' roll, they were very useful this season, we won double
    GK is falling behind a bit because he was injured few days.
    Take a closer look at this screenshots, DL-DC and DC-DR (right corner) are playing their 4th season still at scout level.
    Nordgens rock in long term, they are waaaay better investition than scouts, these aren't power trained, remember that!
    A Guide for fast trainers-long-term-players-s12.jpg

    And quick statistic: matches played (without today's last match);
    DC-DR (Welsh) 103 matches
    DC-DR (Hungarian) 147 matches
    DL-DC 136 matches
    GK 118 matches
    Last edited by t11_fan; 11-15-2014 at 10:34 AM.
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    Nordgens rock in long term, they are waaaay better investition than scouts
    Yeah, I agree 100 %. Especially if they are 1st or 2nd class - the most expensive. Some problems are :
    Bad rates on GK if you have a good team and good defense. Make you wonder if it's a "duck" GK or it's a "glitch" (?) of the program about this position.
    Unstable rates of MCs. Big variation depending on formation/orders/opponent. Also makes you wonder about the quality of the player. - of course we're talking about range 6-8. If less
    A period of injuries a player can have.
    Some say that to many young players in a team don't perform well. I don't agree. I won the treble with a team 20,2 y.o. avg .
    Only problem in the beginning of the season (1/4) when the team was unstable.
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    My gk has average form 7, but i found out on other teams that their form is sometimes weird...
    I change most often mildfielders (mainly MC's) because they need all good skills, defs and attackers last longer in my teams.
    Maybe this strategy with long-term players isn't perfect, but i found it as the best.
    Spending 25+M on nordgen at levels 8 and 9 maybe seems like complete madness to someone, but it payed off through few seasons.
    I spent then last coin to buy them, but it was good choice because they won 2CL's and Cup + played few semifinals...

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    LV5 p23 day 28 – “Level 5 generation”
    Hi my friends again.
    Last day of the season today and I just want to show you some players I bought this season. These players are 1st class nordgens, 5*, the most expensive in this lv, except of one who was 2nd class and 4* -Lilegraven, whom I wanted to cover the position of ML/AML and few games later I sold him. He also was fast trainer as the others. All those players had over 100 raise in 3 bars, practice match. Later of course, when they get their 6* dropped – sometimes 70, sometimes near 100. They (almost all) are now 6* players.

    A Guide for fast trainers-4-new-nord.jpg
    A Guide for fast trainers-4-new-nrdgen-2.jpg
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    LV5 p24 day 28 “Finance thing – money makes money”
    As you can see, those above players cost a lot.
    I changed some names to Brazilian players

    A Guide for fast trainers-contracts.jpg

    Totally, the 7 of them cost me 70M (of course -10% of the price).
    The thing is that if you begin with an investment as I do from lv2 and play the game right, with money you buy good expensive players, they bring you titles and the titles bring you money back. With those players I won this season the treble :8,25M from the league + 11,7M from participation (winning) Champions League + 12,5M from the Cup, so at the end I still have enough millions to buy 2-3 players in my new season and develop the older players from 5* to 6* and of course won the league/Ch.L. ODT.
    This probably is the last training of this season

    A Guide for fast trainers-11-15-pt3.jpg

    If you like, check my tactic for winning the treble
    http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...-cup-draw.html.
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