Pros and cons in power training

[Al Svanberg]

Nik- I am definitely not saying that the new version is better than the old, I don't know at all how the old works!

But to the other topic, which I think is extremely interesting. In light of the info Moi gave us, this is the summary I can put forth:

You have your 11 players in the pitch. Some of them add more contribution to the Defense rating than others, ie, strikers don't contribute at all, and defenders contribute the most.

Getting a 10% [bonus] increase in an area of the game won't mean your team qualifications for this area will go exactly 10% up, it means they will be "10% better" in relative terms.

You have your 11 players in the pitch. Some of them add more contribution to the Defense rating than others, ie, strikers don't contribute at all, and defenders contribute the most. So, considering everything, your defensive stats reach a certain value. The bonus makes this value go higher.

Somehow, we don't know how, the ability of our team -- besides factors like the formation we use, bonuses and what not -- affects the outcome of a game. That is a safe assumption, at least when Tactician is not around... Moi say that our players contribute to how our team perform, so its a fact.

Hence:
Confirmed fact 1: The total ability of your team matters.

What more?

We have also as a fact learned something more. Not only does the total ability of your team value, it also matters if this ability is for example defensive. We get a "defensive rating" like Moi put it or "qualifications for this area". For example, if someone just ran physical drills, his team would get a low defensive and offensive rating and a high physical rating, right? From this it must be safe to assume that a high offensive rating means that you perform better offensively. Right?

So does this mean that it actually that the individual creation of a player's ability matters when it comes to how that individual player performs? No, it does not confirm that, it don't confirm that that isn't the case either. It is still unclear, right? But, it confirms that the total offensive ability of a team impacts how the team will perform offensively, right? Correct me if I you think I am wrong!

Hence:
Confirmed fact 2: It matters if a players has high defensive/physical/offensive abilities. Maybe not on an individual level, but at least on a team level.


And this is not all, we learned a third thing too! High defensive ability on a defender has a bigger impact than high defensive ability on a striker or AMC and so forth. Right? Moi say that straight out.

So this adds another level. A team with a striker that has Defensive ability: 100; Physical ability: 50; Offensive ability: 50; and a Central Defender that has Defensive ability: 50; Physical ability: 50; Offensive ability 100 will -- perform worse -- than a team that has the opposite division, ie. a stirker with Defensive ability: 50; Physical ability: 50; Offensive ability: 100; and a Central Defender that has Defensive ability: 100; Physical ability: 50; Offensive ability 50. Right? The high offensive ability on the striker will matter more than the high offensive ability on the Central Defender. That must be the only conclusion, right?

So:
Confirmed fact 3: How the ability of a player is divided over the categories Defense, Physical and Offense does matters.

What I think is still unclear is two central questions:

(1) does it matter how ability within a category is divided? Like, will a team with for example two strikers that has the shooting ability 100 and the passing ability 50 score on more shots than a team with two strikers that has the shooting ability 50 and the passing ability 100)? We don't know, but I don't think its far fetched that that would be the case.

And to further complicate this, it should be pointed out that the answer to this question could be everything from No it does not matter to Yes it does matter but the impact in the end is marginal or even irrelevant because so many factors matters to Yes it does matter a lot.

(2) does it matter -- on an individual level -- how the ability of a team in a certain area is divided. Like in short, if a team has 3 Strikers, X, Y and Z, where striker X and Y has the ability 100 all over the board and striker Z has the ability 50 all over the board, will strikers X and Y perform better in games than striker Z? I have seen some say that it doesn't matter and some say that it does. I don't know. I am not at all sold that it does matter. I think its perfectly possible that all strikers would perform like if they had like 100+100+50/3=83.3 in ability.

What do you guys think about this?

[LeManiaque]

What do you guys think about this?

Looks like it was written by a lawyer, haha.


One example to consider about individual vs group or line rating (central question 2) - Some have shown that a limited number of low Q players can perform well with an otherwise good team, like the 1 star goalie. Also there are games when the opposing defense shows its highest rating on the lowest Q defender. This could mean the defense as a whole is playing poorly, but that's still a good showing for the low Q player.