Understanding role of Luck in top eleven

[Tactician]

well, that's not luck, it's reactions of the game program.
Usually it's my answer to those who 're saying that there is no game procedure, just fix results from calculations before the game.

This says a lot. Yet some people denied it. I suspect such a thing to be in this game too. I think that the majority of decisions, that is what will be significant have already been decided before the match has been 'played'. It could be due to the suspected 'roll of the dice' like you say, but it could be due to something else or a combination of those things. If it is because of a bad 'roll of the dice', then this is not acceptable. Football is not a game of dice. One thing is for sure though, when the game has not favoured you, that is it has favoured the opponent significantly, there is nothing much you can do as manager to change the final outcome of a match or a round. Tactics, quality and so on, all will fail. The only way to get out of it is to have extreme advantage in quality like +80% difference and above as compared to the opponent, where the given hidden advantages to the opponent won't be enough to make your team lose.

P.S: I do not play with dice. If 'rolls of dice' have a major contribution in the outcomes of this game, I am going to quit this game. I don't support things that are unfair, especially those that are significantly unfair. If I wanted to play with dice, I would have chosen certain board games or casino games, not a football management simulation game.

[nikolgiorgos]

I don't get how you can call something a troll result though

Well, there are some different kinds (except the "fixed" results. I will talk about them later).
Many times, a troll result is simple a bad "visualization" of a game.
Some actions which are "abnormal". I call them "fail" of the program to present a game flaw.
One of them for example is when a team has a player out with red card, it doesn't affect the game play and this team scores.






* please Tactician, I would appreciate if you 'll not continue here the discussion about general theories. If you have some specific examples, you 're free to post and contribute too.

[Tactician]

Well, there are some different kinds (except the "fixed" results. I will talk about them later).
Some actions which are "ub-normal". I call them "fail" of the program to present a game flaw.
One of them for example is when a team has a player out with red card, it doesn't affect the game play and this team scores.

These are among my concerns in this game. So, let's talk about that.

[nikolgiorgos]

One other case of troll result is when opponent is using an abnormal formation but still you can't win.
For this case, my explanation is the Wheel of fortune. In this game, the game machine ignores totally the factor "Formation" - while in other cases is very important.
example no1
A friend couldn't won the "Wall" formation of a player who wanted to loose



example 2
This manager playing with this formation, eliminate a team I had from CH.L. (one year ago, with the same quality of the other guy, 5-6* players, playing 4-5-1). In the next round, he disqualified because of the "away" goal.
Again the program ignored the "illegal" formation.
But here is something else because he played continually with that formation. So, maybe is something else like a magic recipe or "chemistry" .




maybe in this case he hit the three 7s in the slot machine haha

[Tactician]

Ok, so do you think it is acceptable for such a thing to be in this game? If not, then will it not be better if 'luck' had a lesser effect in this game?

P.S: maybe your answer will be biased here because you were never really a victim of it, and especially not in important matches.