Pros and cons in power training

[nikolgiorgos]

But we got to start somewhere if we are to figure this game out!!

yes, agree
so I believe that the target must be
How can we improve/develop our players with the new training, spending less sources.
That's why I started the tests and the guide about fast trainers.
If and how are they more effective than other players it's still questionable.
But the profit is that you can develop (the quality of) your team with less sources.

[nikolgiorgos]

I take it you mean FK sa ? ( that you added ) 25-30 greens is amazing but you never really counted them ?

maybe can be done.
I don't remember if it's here or in another post of Al,
I was saying about my academy (token) 4* player who got +150 (1,5 sp) gaining in 3 bars practice (-18% condition)
meaning with about 35 greens.
so if world class drills can give more gaining than old training, can be done.
But it's good to keep records so to be sure.

Edit: was this using the new training btw ?

yes, there's a pic

* another question to be answered :
if he was a DC and you wanted to give him "header", those world class but attacking drills could help the same ?

[madflo19]

* another question to be answered :
if he was a DC and you wanted to give him "header", those world class but attacking drills could help the same ?

Yes it's the same,I've trained a DC for aerial defender,5 times with world class attacking drills and I got 4sp and 5 times with world class defense drills got the same 4 sp


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[Al Svanberg]

Ibangali- Did you play games too to add that FK SA? 25-30 with just training is a bit low but you might have found a faster trainer than I ever have. 34 rests is my record with a 4 star kid

Thanks for sharing!!

[ibangali]

Ibangali- Did you play games too to add that FK SA? 25-30 with just training is a bit low but you might have found a faster trainer than I ever have. 34 rests is my record with a 4 star kid

Thanks for sharing!!

No, I don't use that FT to play game, I have 7 FT 18 yo 3*-4* and I don't let them play game. Actually after the new upgrade I sold all my scouts and all 22 players then bought 14 32 yo free agent players, they playing all the league match and this season I'm not actively playing. I'll try to rebuild my team slowly but still not sure when I can play actively again. I didn't keep record for that FK sa but I sure that I didn't use 30 green pack cuz I don't have any green pack in stock, thats why I said may be 25-30 green pack and also for FK need only 40 points not 50.

Here I did one run tonight with my 7 FT, same world class "First counter attack", 6 drill, 22.5% condition loss; only goalkeeper and one AMC doesn't received double but others received double, like

MC => new position MR
dmc => new position DC
ST => new position AMR
MC => CK
AML => SS

My calculation (I might wrong) if every time cost 22.5 - 27% condition for 2 points toward to sp or np then one FT need 25 x (50 / 2) = 625 condition (average 25 condition each run), so 625 / 15 = 41.666 or 42 green pack need.

Unfortunately I don't have enough green pack in stock to finish all training before new season, so those 7 FT going to lost there star on next season.

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Here is one DC+DR just bought him and assigning AD sa but he doesn't gave me 4 points with 3 times 22.5% condition run, but got 5 points and not bad. btw, when I bought him he had 80% condition and I use it, no green yet.

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[nikolgiorgos]

- I have 7 FT 18 yo 3*-4* .
-Unfortunately I don't have enough green pack in stock to finish all training before new season, so those 7 FT going to lost there star on next season.

well, this is bad management
Maybe those players gaining a lot but you 're gonna need a lot of greens to develop them.
Also you have to stay in the same level for a couple of seasons so they won't loose their stars but that means they 'll get older.
You 'll not gonna earn anything from that.

Yes it's the same,I've trained a DC for aerial defender,5 times with world class attacking drills and I got 4sp and 5 times with world class defense drills got the same 4 sp

that's very useful tip

[ibangali]

well, this is bad management
Maybe those players gaining a lot but you 're gonna need a lot of greens to develop them.
Also you have to stay in the same level for a couple of seasons so they won't loose their stars but that means they 'll get older.
You 'll not gonna earn anything from that.

First correction my last post, my 7 FT not losing star, gaining age

Secondly, you shocked me nik, honorable veteran manager you really shocked me :O
I don't think it is bad management :P

A manager not only manage the game/match, he manage club finance, training etc. We all know each day we can use 48 condition for training or player regain 48 condition a day, so
48 x 28 = 1344 condition we can use in one season, I believe its more than enough to train a FT and bring one star up, I can train my 4* to 5* and sell him to gain club finance. Also my training lvl is 51, in one season I can train those players and lvl up my training too, like all my attack drills are world class, most of the def drills are 3 whistle, so I can lvl up more than 2 of my def drill to world class. On the other hand, if those players become 21 they will be then 6*/7* and they can play for my club until age of 27/28
if they can't play good then I can sell and bring money for club. In Bangla we used to say, "Fry the fish using his own fat"

btw, right now I have 8 not 7, last night I bought one more. and none of those FT I bid with anyone, if I see someone bidding I didn't join, I let him to have
Even if we like to buy recommended scout, those scout cost over 60 T and most of them are 19-21 yo

some point I'll earn or gain something, am I right amigo

[Cloverfield]

Old
- it takes about 1/3 of the time you need to spend in the new training

Just a comment on the sum-up of first post.
When training is ongoing in new version, if you tap the screen then training is skipped/finished.
So about timing new version adds overhead only when you want to set up new set of drills for your player.

I find new version much useful when you want to boost specific individual skills alongside with his overall quality.

[nikolgiorgos]

the problem is that when we are doing individual training, there is no "repeat" button.
Only when we have a group of players.
If there was this button/option, it would be much faster.
If I was good to making videos ( ), I could prove that the time is 1/3 (at least !) faster.

[Cloverfield]

Of course there is repeat even with one player!
Just did 10 consecutive trainings with same set of drills using the repeat button