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Al Svanberg Guide: Condition loss and... 10-25-2016, 05:58 PM
LeManiaque Just quick thoughts: I... 10-25-2016, 07:03 PM
Al Svanberg Yeah, my thought exactly. I... 10-25-2016, 08:56 PM
nikolgiorgos as I told you in another... 10-25-2016, 08:33 PM
Al Svanberg I have! :) But after 5... 10-25-2016, 09:04 PM
LeManiaque I'm with you on the play by... 10-25-2016, 09:34 PM
Jeeves A complete study on condition... 10-26-2016, 10:05 AM
Petrov2g Nice one mate ! 10-26-2016, 03:20 PM
Al Svanberg Thanks guys, I very much... 10-26-2016, 05:04 PM
Al Svanberg This is how the numbers of... 10-26-2016, 08:38 PM
Al Svanberg Jeeves- BTW, do you think... 10-27-2016, 10:56 AM
Jeeves @ Al Svanberg I do, but... 10-27-2016, 02:29 PM
Toxcatl Not necessarily. It could be... 11-03-2016, 07:28 AM
Al Svanberg More numbers done: 72752 ... 10-28-2016, 05:40 PM
nikolgiorgos - In the old version, it was... 10-28-2016, 06:48 PM
Al Svanberg Niko- Yeah, but what I think... 10-29-2016, 07:53 AM
nikolgiorgos from here ... 10-29-2016, 10:22 AM
LeManiaque Well, CR7 is not scoring off... 10-29-2016, 12:15 PM
Al Svanberg Next season I will try to... 11-08-2016, 11:33 AM
Shire Is the ability gain in games... 11-11-2016, 12:03 PM
LeManiaque ^^^ Yes, there is a real... 11-11-2016, 12:43 PM
Al Svanberg Hi guys! Long time, no... 11-20-2016, 09:10 PM
LeManiaque Can you determine if the... 11-21-2016, 04:01 AM
Al Svanberg Yeah, my bet is that... 11-21-2016, 10:13 AM
Al Svanberg The sample size for games... 11-30-2016, 09:55 PM
Toxcatl Awesome job as usual, Al! ... 12-01-2016, 06:15 PM
Al Svanberg Yeah, thanks! High pressing... 12-01-2016, 10:37 PM
nikolgiorgos yes and unfortunately this... 12-02-2016, 06:03 PM
Al Svanberg Yeah, it seems to be a bit of... 12-05-2016, 03:20 PM
nikolgiorgos extra gaining (and more... 12-05-2016, 03:51 PM
Al Svanberg 74315 More or less final... 12-06-2016, 09:26 PM
LeManiaque Ps- Al, are you tracking... 12-06-2016, 10:35 PM
LeManiaque So you did not conclude that... 12-06-2016, 10:30 PM
Al Svanberg LeMa- Have you seen an... 12-07-2016, 06:17 AM
Al Svanberg First of all, I spent the... 12-13-2016, 09:21 PM
Al Svanberg This season I have started to... 12-13-2016, 09:46 PM
stinkybg So extra condtion from high... 03-06-2017, 12:40 AM
Toxcatl Yes, that's right. 03-06-2017, 05:50 AM
stinkybg Hmm was gonna play each 11 1... 03-06-2017, 06:34 AM
Toxcatl I'm not sure I got it right.... 03-06-2017, 11:31 AM
LarryC I was also wondering, because... 03-06-2017, 01:46 PM
stinkybg Yeah i was planning to play w... 03-06-2017, 11:59 AM
Toxcatl I see. Well, you can always... 03-06-2017, 12:07 PM
Toxcatl Sounds too complicated. I... 03-06-2017, 03:21 PM
LarryC Fair enough. I wish there'd... 03-06-2017, 05:02 PM
Bog Igre I play with 2 teams for last... 03-06-2017, 10:07 PM
nikolgiorgos it's relative with condition... 03-08-2017, 06:46 PM
Toxcatl Skill gain from match is... 03-08-2017, 08:55 PM
The_Savage_1 I'm trying to finish a bit of... 05-18-2017, 01:20 AM
nikolgiorgos it's the same. Using both,... 05-18-2017, 06:02 PM
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    Guide: Condition loss and Ability gain in games

    BETA

    This is very much on beta level so far. But I've done extensive testing for a while and wanted to put the results online in case anyone else can figure out what I am missing.

    Here is the spreadsheet I am running so far:
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    Explaining it, a row is tied to a player. From the left: Cristelotti, my GK, has 6 stars, no arrows, 141% in Fitness Ability, in the first game tracked ("G1") he lost 22% in Conditioning, his avg, Conditioning loss is 20.5, low at the table the number 18.6 is circled, this is a significant number since its the avg conditioning loss of my players during 59 games tracked (its volume weighted so its a good number), at the top again, 1 is circled which means that my GK in G1 gained 1 ability% (like "1%+ Reflexes"), the number 0.15 is my GKs avg. TEF/Game (in other words, gain in ability per conditioning loss in %, he has a 0.15 TEF, if he looses 20% in conditioning in a game he will on avg gain 0.15x20=3 ability% (like +1 Reflexes, +1 Kicking, +1 Speed)), then TEF L1 and 4 is the TEF he has in practice and the Diff between games and practices.

    Cristellotti is a GK, Cesar DL, Mante and Dailly DMC, Cafinha DMR, Zinidizu is a MC, Zap is a striker, Bozaka is a AML.

    My conclusions so far:

    -The gain in games is very close to what the gain would have been if the player had been trained with Lvl 4 Drills. Ie, about 30% higher than what the gain would have been with lvl 1 drills.

    -I see zero correlation between -- individual -- fitness ability and conditioning loss in a game.

    -The avg. con.loss for 6 star players is 19.7 and for 7 star players its 18.0. Ie, the less stars a player has, the more conditioning he loses. Does this have to do with the fact that he also gains a lot more ability%? I would believe so. (the long redline splits 6 and 7 star players)

    -It still does not seem to be completely random. Like my MC Zinidizu loses a lot less Conditioning per game than my DMC Dailly. The diff is so big that it can't be a coincidence. Like Zinidizu has 4 of 7 games below 16% Con.Loss, my Striker Zapegol has never been below 16% in 8 games. I will keep looking at this.

    Any input, ideas or thoughts to take this further would be greatly appreciated!

    As always, if anyone want a copy of the excel document, drop me a note!
    Last edited by Al Svanberg; 10-25-2016 at 08:32 PM.