Poll - Bring back Skill Limits again? what is fair?

[khris]

So what have I understood-
Drop in beat ability margin is a separate issue.
If there are skill limits like now then I don't see any need to apply any new skill limits.
If Nordeus address the beat ability margin issue then no new skill limits are required.

If I am wrong lemme know.

Again, 3 steps are needed. Only one, don't fix the problem.
The actual skill limits -wide- cause that the simulation covers more distances between stars -this implemented to cover the mutants effect, IMO a 1%+200% player, still been a mutant for how it trolls the engine at some point,,,.

The beatability margin, was changed when 1st, the skill limits where deleted, so fix "only the margin" would bring us at the same point, when a 30% disstance, -so a reduced one- created 2 class of players, a 5* mutant vs a 5* non mutant, one fixing the simulation -overcoming the parameters, really- and here the reason why, the limits went to a wide ones, to allow more margin vs this type of training.
So as said, the game implemented one step after another, the first + the corrections, and all need a roll back.

The 3rd point when I say it's needed to a roll back in the High scores too -that where cutted "for realism" initially, this isn't related with the mutants or margins- is cause they've lost the proportionality... and we could analyze the margins and these cutted scores and probably we will realize that help the engine to troll us...
Ive never seen such amount of low avq team teams winning vs much more lower ones...

and I suggest all this, to "have a knowledge of how to control the game, by managers side".

Nordeus seem to have tweeted the beatability margin to try and compensate for the amount of players that were overtrained through past exploits. However until these overtrained players have left the system (retired/sold back to Nordeus) we are left with a game engine that throws out troll results more often than ever before.

Exact.

[dsio]

Again, 3 steps are needed. Only one, don't fix the problem.
The actual skill limits -wide- cause that the simulation covers more distances between stars -this implemented to cover the mutants effect, IMO a 1%+200% player, still been a mutant for how it trolls the engine at some point,,,.

The beatability margin, was changed when 1st, the skill limits where deleted, so fix "only the margin" would bring us at the same point, when a 30% disstance, -so a reduced one- created 2 class of players, a 5* mutant vs a 5* non mutant, one fixing the simulation -overcoming the parameters, really- and here the reason why, the limits went to a wide ones, to allow more margin vs this type of training.
So as said, the game implemented one step after another, the first + the corrections, and all need a roll back.

The 3rd point when I say it's needed to a roll back in the High scores too -that where cutted "for realism" initially, this isn't related with the mutants or margins- is cause they've lost the proportionality... and we could analyze the margins and these cutted scores and probably we will realize that help the engine to troll us...
Ive never seen such amount of low avq team teams winning vs much more lower ones...

and I suggest all this, to "have a knowledge of how to control the game, by managers side".





Exact.

Khris, great post & analysis of the situation.

What do you suggest as immediate actions to persuade (?) Nordeus to fix current issues?

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[khris]

Khris, great post & analysis of the situation.

What do you suggest as immediate actions to persuade (?) Nordeus to fix current issues?

Thanks

The only actions that the community can do, are just keep reporting all the stuffs that any manager thinks that are unfair for any reason.
If you think something should change, just let them know, there's no more way to try to provoke a change than giving a feedback.
Then is ofc. a matter of time and a internal decision that usually needs some time.

[dsio]

Thanks

The only actions that the community can do, are just keep reporting all the stuffs that any manager thinks that are unfair for any reason.
If you think something should change, just let them know, there's no more way to try to provoke a change than giving a feedback.
Then is ofc. a matter of time and a internal decision that usually needs some time.

Thanks for the prompt reply.

I see current situation to discourage a lot players who invest time and money to build strong teams to win titles.

Big mistake (by Nordeus)!!!!

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[Ποσιδονας]

Drop in beat ability margin is a separate issue.

yes, this is another thing.
It's when they are trying to make the game scores more "realistic" so cannot win an abandoned team with 10,15-0 as the old days.
But with this, every abandoned team with 3* veterans but in their correct position, can get any given by the system, result once a while.

[Ποσιδονας]

Also nordeus should do something with upselling

[eurofieds]

Also nordeus should do something with upselling

What us the meaning of upselling?

[Ποσιδονας]

Read this older thread
https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...ilities-6.html

[jcohen42]

There are a lot of posts here so I'll keep my two cents short and sweet.

If you are against skill limits, you are part of the problem. Training in such a way that you have players with some skills at 200%+ and some skills at 1% is not "good training"; it is manipulative training and it has to go. That is, if Nordeus cares about actually making a good and realistic game.

[madflo19]

Who is against skill limit can't be part of the problem, because he can't change this, only nordeus can, so as long the training is like this he will do like this, simple.